FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

[cksyd]

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Anyone know what kind of gas stove that is in the video? AND anyone any recommendations for a gas stove? I havent picked up my roaster yet but just wondering if height of stove/strength of flame is important.

I would assume it is one in Israel.

Chances of finding the same are possible but I couldnt comment on that.

Go to Bunnings tomorrow. Pickup a Gasmate campstove and a couple of 4 packs of butane fuel for said stove.

If you read, I dunno, a couple of hundred comments you will quickly grasp the fact that they work.

[Quomby]

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Plus they are on special. Picked mine up for under $18

[sidewayss]

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Anyone know what kind of gas stove that is in the video? AND anyone any recommendations for a gas stove? I havent picked up my roaster yet but just wondering if height of stove/strength of flame is important.

Have a look at reply number 109 about directions. Everyone,s stove is different, so you,d want to adjust the flame in order to reach first crack in approx. 10 minutes, then reduce flame to reach second crack in approx. 15 minutes. I,d think doing it indoors on the gas stove would give more consistency than doing it outdoors as changing ambient temperatures and wind can play havoc with the results as Flynn aus found out. If you have an electric stove, then get the camping stove and do it inside. Keep a vacuum cleaner ready to extract the chaff after roasting.
Will be getting mine around Tuesday. Arent the days long when you,re waiting? :

Gary

[drewjane]

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Anyone know what kind of gas stove that is in the video? AND anyone any recommendations for a gas stove? I havent picked up my roaster yet but just wondering if height of stove/strength of flame is important.  

Im using the Gasmate at the moment and to be blunt....it is a pain in the arse. I can get 2-3 roasts with a controllable flame then the flame slowly dies down until the bottle is empty. I am switching to LPG.

[monroe]

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Will give Chris a buzz tommorrow to see how can I pick up this toy.

Let go my coffee machine, get the roaster and start new journey with plunger, I have to

Paul

[javabeen]

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Im using the Gasmate at the moment and to be blunt....it is a pain in the arse. I can get 2-3 roasts with a controllable flame then the flame slowly dies down until the bottle is empty. I am switching to LPG.  

Yep I reckon this is the way to go. It doesnt cost much to get a camp stove and an LPG bottle, relative to the cost of the roaster. In fact most would probably already have a bottle  

On the agitation which I posted about earlier...Ive added some baffles using fold back clips. I clipped them to the shaft of the roaster. They dont extend out to the drum itself but sit amongst the bean mass that sits on top of the beans that are in contact with the drum and do a good of helping mix up this top layer of beans. Its just that I got tired of giving the roaster a shake every minute or so and the clips just help rotate the beans that sit above the beans that are in contact with the drum.

Its early days so far with the clips in there, only done 2 roasts with them and so far so good. Im getting better/more even roasts to shaking the roaster. Im not worried about the appearance of an even roast, more so the result in the cup of an even roast.

Javabeen.

[gbatterley]

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Will buy gas stove with lpg tomorrow after picking up the roaster from Chris in the morning. Green beans arrived today (thanks Andy), will be picking up the 2.5kg of all the new greens (apart from the Robusta) at the Melbourne snobs get together on Saturday.

I think this is the start of a beautiful friendship

[Bill]

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Im using the Gasmate at the moment and to be blunt....it is a pain in the arse. I can get 2-3 roasts with a controllable flame then the flame slowly dies down until the bottle is empty. I am switching to LPG.  

Ive been thinking of switching to LPG myself. Problem is most manufactures of these LPG camping stoves seem to pride themselves on how immensely powerful their stoves are. This Baby Roaster needs very little heat in my experience, so Id like something low powered which has very good flame control at low settings. Does anyone know of anything suitable?

Ive found the GasMate generally much more powerful than is necessary for the job. I havent needed to use a flame setting any higher than the 2nd or 3rd mark from the lowest setting. And its a bit of a pain how quickly it goes through a gas canister. Ive only had the roaster for a few weeks, but am already on my 3rd one.

[sidewayss]

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Javabean, Can u tell us what bullnose clips are, and how/where to get them? How do you install them?

Cheers, Gary

[javabeen]

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This Baby Roaster needs very little heat in my experience, so Id like something low powered which has very good flame control at low settings. Does anyone know of anything suitable?

I agree it does need very little heat to get it going and responds very quickly to changes to flame.

FWIW...Ive had no problem controlling the flame with my camp stove. It is sensitive but permits fine adjustments if that makes sense. I have no trouble stretching out a roast at any stage.

Another alternative is a single burner that you can get from some of the cook shops. My mother in law has one so Ill play with it next time round her place. Maybe this is worth persuing?

Im hoping to roast inside in the kitchen under the rangehood early next year and cant wait to try it out on a proper cooktop with a 1mj simmer burner. Reckon this is going to be adequate and fun, mess and all ;D

Javabeen.

[javabeen]

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Can u tell us what bullnose clips are, and how/where to get them? How do you install them?

Got my stationery wrong  :P, I meant fold back clips like these. Needless to say, you can get them from a stationery shop but most would have them lying round at home.

Installing them was fiddly. I used a small one that I clipped to the shaft and then clipped a larger one onto the smaller one with the help of long nose pliers. I used the largest clip I could squeeze though the opening of the drum. It was my first attempt without physically modifying the roaster. It wont be my last attempt and Im sure others will tinker too ;D

Javabeen

[sidewayss]

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Nice one there Javabean,
Great macro shot of ingenuity. ill give that a go after i do a few roasts without mods, then compare them. I wonder if using three sets of clips would improve things without being counterproductive....

Happy roasting, Gary

[javabeen]

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Thanks Gary.

They work a treat. I did 3 roasts last night back to back of the Kenya Kagunya from beanbay. All roasts came out nice and rather even and I didnt need to give the roaster any shakes just let the agitators do their bit.

I also found i could get repeatable roast times. I got very consistent results with all roasts having first crack and second pretty much at roughly the same time. Lets see if they cup similarly.

[sidewayss]

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Received my baby roaster today, spent 15 minutes unwrapping that seems like miles of plastic wrapping. Admiring the craftsmanship.
Did a sacrificial roast of Brazilian natural pulp.
On a low heat on my kitchen gas stove, first crack didnt arrive til 13 minutes, guessing i,m being a bit cautious. Then turned down heat to let first crack go into second crack which occured at 17 minute mark. I let it go into rolling second crack in order to go through full spectrum for drum seasoning.
Did not notice much of aroma after roasting. Had to blow chaff off, will come up with a more efficient way of cooling later.
For the second roasting, i used a Nicaraguan "cup of excellence" bean. This time around i started with a slightly higher flame upon which first crack arrived at 11 minutes which didnt stop until second crack arrived at 14 minutes. The time that first crack started, the flame was turned down slightly to try and prolong maillards and sugar development.
Again, this time upon cooling, i didnt notice much of aroma.
Anyway, i waited til cool, and proceeded to grind the beans for the plunger. I,m not sure how to describe it fully, but it had a full, lingering flavour in the cup. I can still taste it now. No strange aftertaste which you would get if you roasted it some other way.
As far as plungers go, it tasted great. I cant wait to retrieve the EM 6910 and try it out as an espresso.
So far at this early stage, i am pleased with the result. Will keep everyone informed of further subsequent roasts and notes.
Also note this is not a machine for utter dummies. It requires you to have a attentive approach to this kind of roasting because of the manual aspects.
Watch this space.

Feel like another coffee now...

Gary

[flynnaus]

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...first crack arrived at 11 minutes which didnt stop until second crack arrived at 14 minutes

Ive noticed the same thing with a couple of roasts of Yirgachefe yesterday (and also one last week). First crack started at 11 and 8 mins respectively and the cracks didnt seem to stop even when i pulled the roast judging by colour (at 15 and 13 mins respectively).

Weird.