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  • #91
    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

    Hey guys,

    Follow Marks advice. Dont overthink it.

    I have had one for a week or so now...

    Went to Dennis shop Cuppacoffee and watched the demo from Mark and took one home.

    Did a sacraficial roast, and then roasted some Yemen, mainly because it falls out of the Behmor. Well not all of it, but enough...

    Did around three roasts of this and got pretty gnarly looking results, nothing like what Mark got with his two demo roasts at Cuppacoffee.

    This had me thinking I was doing something totally wrong and also that I was totally stupid as I had seen what Mark did and tried to replicate it.

    Regardless of how it looked, it was still a fantastic cup. Yemen.... ;D

    Anyway I went back to basics, and roasted a Peru Ceja, knowing it is a simple to roast, low chaff bean, to see what it would look like.

    Great looking roast, very uniform and fantastic coffee same day. I felt a whole lot less stupid (some may beg to differ...).

    My mistake was starting with a bean that had fallen out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down and expecting a commercial looking roast, as Mark warns against.

    Start with a simple bean, get your head around it and move from there, but dont expect perfect roasts.

    As Mark says, it doesnt affect the flavour, just the look.

    It is great to be back on a roaster where infinite adjustability and experimentation are available. As Dennis said on the day, getting bogged down in the detail can remove the artisan side of roasting.

    Its a great roaster and you are getting great advice as well.

    Chris

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    • #92
      Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

      Tried some Zambia Terranova Peaberry today.
      Outside Temp 17 deg C, quite a breezy evening so the roast took a bit longer than normal.
      5 minutes at full flame (on an Engel camp stove).
      Reduced heat to about 60% until first crack started at 12 minutes.
      Reduced heat to 30%.
      At 19:30 very first sound of second crack, roast still light.
      At 20:40 turned off heat.
      At 21:25 stopped and cooled.
      These beans are quite dense and usually roasted with a lot of heat up front.
      At the start of second crack the smoke was light and the aromas intoxicating so I let the roast drag out and got a very even result.
      Normally I would stop the roast 20 seconds into second crack, but was aiming for chocolate notes.
      Made an espresso and got a luscious mocha and orange flavour, along with some pleasant acidity. A very nice roast.

      Stan.

      Photo taken indoors with flash, beans are actually a little bit darker, but evenly roasted.



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      • #93
        Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

        For those that are thinking of getting one the baby roasters Supercheap Autos have the gas stoves for $14:98

        Cheers Gra..

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        • #94
          Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

          Originally posted by 112437560 link=1277375158/92#92 date=1280834004
          For those that are thinking of getting one the baby roasters Supercheap Autos have the gas stoves for $14:98  

          Cheers Gra..
          What brand is that? Bunnings have the GasMate brand for similar price.

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          • #95
            Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

            For campers the baby roaster and the TWIST handespresso would give a touch of "boutiqueness" to their experience. Only thing would be figuring out how to grind the beans hee hee ;D. Only thing i can think of is the good old hand grinders. Hmmm... is there such a device as a portable powered grinder?

            Gary

            PS You guys are getting me salivating about the baby roaster and i,m trying to save every single dollar til the time comes. All your fault...

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            • #96
              Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

              Originally posted by 5255404F42210 link=1277375158/91#91 date=1280833565
              Tried some Zambia Terranova Peaberry today.
              Outside Temp 17 deg C, quite a breezy evening so the roast took a bit longer than normal.
              5 minutes at full flame (on an Engel camp stove).
              Reduced heat to about 60% until first crack started at 12 minutes.
              Reduced heat to 30%.
              At 19:30 very first sound of second crack, roast still light.
              At 20:40 turned off heat.
              At 21:25 stopped and cooled.
              These beans are quite dense and usually roasted with a lot of heat up front.
              At the start of second crack the smoke was light and the aromas intoxicating so I let the roast drag out and got a very even result.
              Normally I would stop the roast 20 seconds into second crack, but was aiming for chocolate notes.
              Made an espresso and got a luscious mocha and orange flavour, along with some pleasant acidity. A very nice roast.

              Stan.

              Photo taken indoors with flash, beans are actually a little bit darker, but evenly roasted.
              Nice roast Stan. Never taken it that long in this device before so good to see you still got a nice result from it. Looks like you had steady progression through the roast which is important. If the flame falls off to much and the roast stalls and bean temp drops that is when you tend to get a baked result. Its pretty hard to stall in such a small chamber anyway. Interesting to see that the acidity was still present after the length of time between 1st and second and drop...might experiment with that in this device. The key might be the slower progress in the beginning to 1st you had. Given me some food for thought though, thanks for posting the results

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              • #97
                Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

                Originally posted by 6C594A2B0 link=1277375158/92#92 date=1280834004
                For those that are thinking of getting one the baby roasters Supercheap Autos have the gas stoves for $14:98Smiley

                Cheers Gra..
                K-Mart also have their "Gasmaster" brand for $15.

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                • #98
                  Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

                  Hi , lm interested in somthing like this later on as well , can you get em stainless steel at all as lm a bit worried about using copper as a vessel ( my daughter had high copper in her blood from using the pill ...apparently our bodies arent great at getting rid of excess copper :-/ )

                  Cheers ken

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                  • #99
                    Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

                    Aren,t all the water and gas pipes made of copper?

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                    • Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

                      Has anyone lately roasted beans on the baby roaster or have any feedback to offer? Haven,t had luck searching for user,s reviews on the net. Anyone have any links to post for us to see? Cheers. Gary

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                      • Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

                        Originally posted by 746E636270667E7474070 link=1277375158/99#99 date=1281151117
                        Has anyone lately roasted beans on the baby roaster or have any feedback to offer? Haven,t had luck searching for user,s reviews on the net. Anyone have any links to post for us to see? Cheers. Gary
                        It has a thread on coffee geek

                        Not sure if it will give you any more info as it has here on CS

                        http://coffeegeek.com/forums/coffee/homeroast/461463

                        KK

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                        • Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

                          Originally posted by 69737E7F6D7B6369691A0 link=1277375158/98#98 date=1281150835
                          Aren,t all the water and gas pipes made of copper?

                          Most domestic water piping was/is copper, they now use plastic a lot , gas doent matter as you dont ingest gas .
                          lm only wondering as lve read various stuff on coppper when reseaching my daughters elevated levels that she had, you can take extra zinc and that will help eliminate excess copper too.

                          lm pretty sure roasting in one of these wouldnt cause any great problems once you ran a couple of batchs through it and got a coating on the inside of the drum anyway.... l was just wondering if stainless was an option

                          Cheers ken

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                          • Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

                            Ken i think you should get the result you need by contacting them directly. You should get it quite promptly as i already fired questions to them and they responded next day.

                            Gary

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                            • Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

                              Thanks Gary , lll check it out

                              Cheers Ken

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                              • Re: FZ-RR 700 Baby Roaster

                                Originally posted by 352F222331273F3535460 link=1277375158/102#102 date=1281168604
                                Ken i think you should get the result you need by contacting them directly. You should get it quite promptly as i already fired questions to them and they responded next day.

                                Gary
                                Copper was chosen for its conductive properties and once seasoned, I cant see that its an issue. Roast a couple of batches and you will be right to go...

                                I suspect that if you want in in silver, gold, titanium or stainless that there will be someone somewhere who would be happy to custom make what you want. All comes down to how the arm length to pocket depth ratio matches up

                                Keep in mind also that there is plenty of stainless which is not stainless at high temperature...

                                Chris

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