Prices of 1kg and 2kg roasters.

[A_M]

Regardless of what many might say...

I have major issues with the prices charged for 1gk or 2kg units..

5kg and above... Yep teh electrical / gas / Venting / Cooling / Chaff removal etc all has to be considered and the size / volume etc etc So it makes sense that they will cost a significant amount of dollars..

Bit to go from most of teh 300g units including a Gene etc to a 1kg model and then be looking at $4k at least.. Not on for teh home roaster in my books; unless ya doing a bit for a few mates and charging... But then that is no longer just HOME roasting.

Would love a 1kg to 1.5kg but unless it is $2k or less; too many other cost effective options.

[TC]

Re: Prices of 1kg and 2kg roasters.

Regardless of what many might say...

I have major issues with the prices charged for 1gk or 2kg units..

5kg and above... Yep the electrical / gas / Venting / Cooling / Chaff removal etc all has to be considered and the size / volume etc etc  So it makes sense that they will cost a significant amount of dollars..

Bit to go from most of the 300g units including a Gene etc  to a 1kg model and then be looking at $4k at least..    Not on for the home roaster in my books; unless ya doing a bit for a few mates and charging... But then that is no longer just HOME roasting.

Would love a 1kg to 1.5kg but unless it is $2k or less; too many other cost effective options.

Hear you AM, but if youre talking commercial, fact is that the componentry is pretty much identical. For example, examining the Has Garanti HGS2 v HGS5: both have identical electrics, motors, gas trains and operate identically. The only differences are the smaller body, drum and cooling pan of the HGS2. Theyre priced accordingly.

Bottom line is that unless its an alternative to a commercial, its probably going to cost commercial bucks. Given its 85% of the bigger brother, it will never be 40% of the price.

The reason that there has so far been no 1.5-2kg Gene, Hottop, Behmor etc is that theyre not really doable when it comes to outcome as well as chaff and smoke management. Its why a baby roaster can be so simple, but wouldnt work at 2kg...

The 1kg Gene does look promising but at $5k or more, is probably still not going to appeal to home roasters as it will be too expensive.

Chris

[greenman]

Re: Prices of 1kg and 2kg roasters.

Regardless of what many might say...

I have major issues with the prices charged for 1gk or 2kg units..

5kg and above... Yep teh electrical / gas / Venting / Cooling / Chaff removal etc all has to be considered and the size / volume etc etc  So it makes sense that they will cost a significant amount of dollars..

Bit to go from most of teh 300g units including a Gene etc  to a 1kg model and then be looking at $4k at least..    Not on for teh home roaster in my books; unless ya doing a bit for a few mates and charging... But then that is no longer just HOME roasting.

Would love a 1kg to 1.5kg but unless it is $2k or less; too many other cost effective options.

Ive pondered over this for quite some time, wanting a larger roaster than my trusty Corretto but baulking at the big bucks involved.
I have followed the thread on the 2kg Solar shop roaster for quite some time, the concept appealed to me but not the fully auto. When Mark announced that Coffee Tech were developing a 2kg Torrefatore manual roaster I became quite excited, being able to plug it in, add a flue and youre in business! The build quality of these units look great.
I am about to reach a major age milestone in my life and consider that life owes me a little indulgence so I have ordered one of these babies and cant wait for its arrival in the near future. When I tell my friends what Im spending on a coffee roaster they think Im crazy but its what I love doing and will give me an outlet and stimulation during my impending retirement plus a bit of pocketmoney to boot

[flynnaus]

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I think you also need to figure in the cost of a 20 amp circuit if you dont have one. At 3400 watt, a 10 amp circuit isnt going to supply enough current for one of these. You need at least 15amp.

[greenman]

Re: Prices of 1kg and 2kg roasters.

I think you also need to figure in the cost of a 20 amp circuit if you dont have one. At 3400 watt, a 10 amp circuit isnt going to supply enough current for one of these.  You need at least 15amp.

thanks flynn, Ive had a chat to my sparky brother-in-law, coffee for expertise could be on the cards!!

[beanflying]

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Very hard to compare what is essentially a good quality medium volume appliance with a heavy duty low volume or custom industrial product as to price/roast volume. If you do the numbers on a conservatively of a Hottop at $1300 for 250g multiply it by 8 you get to $10k+ so by volume the smaller better built roasters are not that bad. Problem really is that compared to a 600g Coretto everything looks bad

We also carry over and above the instant burden of 5% duty and 10% gst over and above some other countries so on a $10k roaster that is around $1500 of its price. But the pricing of the locally sourced roasters still have a decent margin above that. Put this down to local compliance cost smaller volume etc I guess as happens in a lot of importing businesses.

Like Greenman I am looking at a 1.5-3kg electric roaster at present, looks like early in the New Year for me unless I win Tatslotto next week

Compared with Gas compliance costs and ongoing operational savings seems for small Roasters and low volumes the flexability of Electric is a god way to go.

Anyway not really a rant or a justification as I would prefer a 2kg roaster for 3 times the price of a Coretto :

[Koffee_Kosmo]

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Like Greenman I am looking at a 1.5-3kg electric roaster at present, looks like early in the New Year for me unless I win Tatslotto next week Wink

Compared with Gas compliance costs and ongoing operational savings seems for small Roasters and low volumes the flexability of Electric is a god way to go.

Anyway not really a rant or a justification as I would prefer a 2kg roaster for 3 times the price of a CorettoRoll Eyes

An air roaster like Roaster Robs design 2.5 - 5 kg can be built for $1 - $1500

KK

[beanflying]

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True but I like drum roasting

[kesa32]

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How about the larger SS BBQ roasting drums off evilbay?..........lve never used one but they certainly get up in size for bigger batchs

Cheers ken

[beanflying]

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Fatboy uses one for larger sizes, doesnt suit me for going down the commercial path this way in terms of practicality general look. If you want larger home use then it is a different storey.

[Andy]

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so I have ordered one of these babies and cant wait for its arrival

HUGE congrats on the pending toy Greenman. We all look forward to seeing the pictorial unwrap when it arrives.

8-)

[redzone121]

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Nice one Greenman !

[bolb]

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Anyone know if there has been any movement on people purchasing roasters in this category?
My KKTO appears to be struggling again with agitation so i think i need to be stepping up to the next level of roaster and the Coffee tech units are appealing.

Pushing 110 roasts out of the KKTO since the start of 2010 is probably pushing the boundaries of the unit.

Mal

[TC]

Re: Prices of 1kg and 2kg roasters.

Anyone know if there has been any movement on people purchasing roasters in this category?
My KKTO appears to be struggling again with agitation so i think i need to be stepping up to the next level of roaster and the Coffee tech units are appealing.

Pushing 110 roasts out of the KKTO since the start of 2010 is probably pushing the boundaries of the unit.

Mal

Hi Mal,

I think the Coffee-Tech 2kg Torrefactorre is going to be a terrific roaster for those CSers looking to step up to the next level. These are professional, commercial roasters and they produce professional quality output.

I love the Solar Autoroast, but I am the type of bloke who likes to play. The full control over heat and air in the Torrefactore is terrific and coupled with Andys bean probe and software, you will have absolute full control over roast profile. Unlike the Solar, the Torrefactore has a sampler as well.

The initial batch of Torrefactore 2kg at CS introductory price are now spoken for. Mark has arranged a further 2 units.

For those who want one, its time to jump

Chris

[beanflying]

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For those who want one, its time to jump

I wish I could but early next year for me