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  • Importing 1kg Roaster from China

    Hi Guys,

    Looking to get a 1kg roaster. Having shopped around Australia its difficult to find anything under $7000. Does this seem about right? Can anyone suggest something for under this price?

    Has anyone here imported from China before or know someone who has?

    I've been able to find a number of 1kg roasters through alibaba.com for under $3500 (including shipping). Would have to confirm if they're ready for use in Australia (just seen the info about this on coffee snobs).

    Would anyone be able to shed some light as to going this route?

    thanks in advance...

  • #2
    Chinese goods (at least those sold through alibaba/dhgate) are very hit and miss - there are some very good deals to be had but unless you're dealing with a known seller and product, be prepared to have wasted whatever you spend.

    Why not just buy two Behmors?

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    • #3
      Hi Beenbag,

      There are many smaller home roasters you can buy which may not be 1kg roasters but are great little roaster for there price, the Behmor is a perfect example which Andy sells here. If however you are set on buying something 1kg and over in terms of a Drum roaster my guess is you need to be prepared to spend the money for one. They might seem expensive here, however my guess would be if you imported one from overseas, getting it to be compliant and running on Aust 240v may end up costing you a similar price to buying one here.
      On top of that if you by one from say China and something goes wrong, i doubt the customer service from China is going to be very helpful in fixing whatever is wrong with it. 1kg roaster sometimes pop up on evilbay and even on here sometimes.

      This is just my opinion, i would buy many thing from overseas, however i wont by anything which is electrical with a price tag of a coffee roaster.

      Regards,

      Chris

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      • #4
        Google "CCR-1kg Coffee Roaster".
        They have been reviewed on a couple of other forums, and the feedback is positive.
        They are in your price range. Electric.

        If you want something cheaper, A KKTO is your best bet.

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        • #5
          CS member Vinitasse has a small self-imported roaster.

          Dealing with electrical compliance will be simpler than working with gas.

          Of course the usual caveats apply to warranty, duty, GST and you may well need a phrase book should you require after sales support.

          When I purchased my first roaster, I looked to gas roasters overseas and was scared off by the work needed to comply, so I coughed up and purchased locally. I'm glad I did.

          As usual, due diligence.

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          • #6
            Forget China and look towards Turkey... at least they have a few centuries of coffee culture to draw upon... and... I happen to know for a fact that Turkish 1-2.5kg drum roasters can be had for under $5000 all up (includes cost, shipping, duties, GST, delivery, assorted importation and handling fees, installation and compliancing)

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            • #7
              Might be a dumb question, but why is there such a jump from a roaster like the behmor to an electric roaster with 2x the capacity?

              Make it bigger, upsize the heating/blowing and stick a 15A plug on it and you're done, right?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Dragunov21 View Post
                Might be a dumb question, but why is there such a jump from a roaster like the behmor to an electric roaster with 2x the capacity?

                Make it bigger, upsize the heating/blowing and stick a 15A plug on it and you're done, right?
                That's a bit like asking why a home microwave costs so much less than a commercial oven. The Behmor was never designed or built to stand up to the rigours of commercial operation.

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                • #9
                  If you were talking about something that does 10kg at a time I could see your point, but at the end of the day a roaster is a drum, a nichrome element, a motor, chain/bearings, fan, filter and a frame/case (plus a controller that you could use an Arduino for), right?

                  I suspect that you could build a one-off built to withstand a high duty-cycle for <$3k no worries? Maybe I'm just underestimating the costs involved but I might try pricing one up someday.

                  That said, a commercial oven isn't particularly complicated either... Just wondering where it all goes.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dragunov21 View Post
                    If you were talking about something that does 10kg at a time I could see your point, but at the end of the day a roaster is a drum, a nichrome element, a motor, chain/bearings, fan, filter and a frame/case (plus a controller that you could use an Arduino for), right?

                    I suspect that you could build a one-off built to withstand a high duty-cycle for <$3k no worries? Maybe I'm just underestimating the costs involved but I might try pricing one up someday.

                    That said, a commercial oven isn't particularly complicated either... Just wondering where it all goes.
                    Yes... you most likely could make something for under $3K... if you didn't factor in labour costs and time spent thinking up the plans in the first place. Then again, it's also possible to make a motor vehicle from some chromoly tubing and an old lawnmower engine... but would the net result still be comercially comparable? I doubt it.

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                    • #11
                      Just make a bigger one and you're done

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Vinitasse View Post
                        Yes... you most likely could make something for under $3K... if you didn't factor in labour costs and time spent thinking up the plans in the first place. Then again, it's also possible to make a motor vehicle from some chromoly tubing and an old lawnmower engine... but would the net result still be comercially comparable? I doubt it.
                        More than offset by mass-production and volume sales, no?

                        As for being comparable to commercial offerings, it needs to heat a mass of beans evenly in a controllable manner and very little else; the car comparison isn't valid unless your chromoly crapcar is a target popper.

                        Of course, I'm assuming that is a relatively simple task. Maybe that's not true, does anyone have any experience with this stuff? (design/construction of roasters)

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                        • #13
                          [QUOTE=Dragunov21;504561]More than offset by mass-production and volume sales, no? QUOTE]

                          There really isn't any mass production or volume sales to speak of in the commercial coffee roasting world. Other than limited showroom stock, roasters tend to be built to order... one at a time.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Dragunov21 View Post
                            Of course, I'm assuming that is a relatively simple task. Maybe that's not true, does anyone have any experience with this stuff? (design/construction of roasters)
                            Check out Genio Roasters of South Africa. My buddy has a very interesting blog all about how a uni engineering project took on a life of its own and how he has now designed and builds commercial coffee roasters for a living. Very cool machines too... and... as you will see from the blog... the process has been anything but simple, easy or inexpensive.

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                            • #15
                              [QUOTE=Vinitasse;504563]
                              Originally posted by Dragunov21 View Post
                              More than offset by mass-production and volume sales, no? QUOTE]

                              There really isn't any mass production or volume sales to speak of in the commercial coffee roasting world. Other than limited showroom stock, roasters tend to be built to order... one at a time.
                              Hmmm, I'd have thought there'd be be a market for a fair number of cafes; is 1kg-capacity really commercial/dedicated-roaster-only territory?

                              Originally posted by Vinitasse View Post
                              Check out Genio Roasters of South Africa. My buddy has a very interesting blog all about how a uni engineering project took on a life of its own and how he has now designed and builds commercial coffee roasters for a living. Very cool machines too... and... as you will see from the blog... anything but simple, easy or cheap.
                              Engineering-porn in the metal. Thanks for sharing. That said, they appear to be very much the bleeding edge rather than the budget-minded but capable high-capacity offering I'm thinking of. Taking a curious stab, I'm gonna guess $12k-15k apiece?

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