Aillio R1 Bullet

[AlMac]

It seems to me that the certification is a global issue - which would make sense as UL is a global organisation - so Aillio would get certification once.
I couldn't find anyone actually selling Bullets anywhere.
All I could find was sites taking pre-orders in NZ and UK - so same situation as Australia.

I read that the certification process can take a long time, especially if you are new to it/haven't been through it before.

Hard yards getting a new product to market.

[mikef]

I have a deposit on a Bullet. Australian electrical standards have been common with Europe for many years. I don't believe that the delay of more than a year now is due to certification issues. It's simply a commercial decision to serve more important markets first. USA is now a case in point. As much as I would like it to be different with Aillio's very limited production capacity, I think unfortunately we might be waiting years for delivery.

[readeral]

It's not certified for europe. Official suppliers in the UK are unable to stock it either.

Given the inventors are Danish, I doubt very much that they're inclined to neglect Europe for the USD cash, and that they are dragging their heels. Talking to Charlie from Jetblack (himself having imported a number of espresso machines with new technology) he says its not surprising how long it has taken them to get it past certification.

Given the certification is a systematic step through each component (as per cjm007's post) - hopefully that gives them confidence to fabricate a growing collection of parts ready for assembly once given the all clear.

[mikef]

I have been informed that it has CB certification (a global certification that includes Australia). UL and CE certifications are apparently being done and the cause for delay. In my experience in Australian appliance certifications (both UL and CE), a year-long delay is simply implausible. I don't want to get into an argument about it but it's hard to believe that it has obtained certifications for sale in the USA but the Australian/NZ certifying authorities are confounded (for more than a year now) as to how to test it. Mention has been made about unique Australian requirements eg the power cord!!! An IEC power cord with an Australian plug has been certified for over 20 years!! I wish I was more positive but as time goes on, I'm less hopeful that we will see this machine in Australia any time soon.

[readeral]

Well the fact that UL and CE certifications exist in addition to the CB certification suggests to me (who knows very little about anything) that there's a reason/need for additional certification types - possibly because CB is less rigorous? Given the number of new products that have 1-2 year delays for launch in Australia after a US launch, it certainly seems that way.

I doubt Australian authorities are confounded how to test it at this stage - I'm sure it would have been an issue initially (being the first ever induction roaster in the world) but I'm sure they worked that out 6+ months ago. I'd suggest that Aillio's design/engineering/prototyping/manufacturing iterative cycle is slower than larger manufacturers given any change is going to require considering new (for the company) approaches to certification blocking issues. Plus keeping costs down.

It is fair to expect that once a design is submitted for review that it might take 3-4 months depending on how much work the certifying body has on. If there are multiple changes required, then it's reasonable to suggest it could take a year.

Not saying you're wrong - but in every interaction I've had with the company it is clear to me that they're frustrated and are as eager as ever to get this roaster into their (arguably more profitable) markets.

[Peter_Tomlins]

So the new air filter for the Aillio is letting a ton more air through and I've reduced the fan speed down a fair bit. How are others roasting with the new filter finding it?

[celph]

So close to a year late now, has anyone got any updated information?

[readeral]

Nope...

[Nolbee]

Spoke to ECA two weeks ago and they have placed me on an email notification list and will advise when the Bullet is available for distribution to retailers in Australia, maybe an option to consider for other anxious buyers.

[readeral]

Yeah I’ve been on that list for 4 months.

[cjm007]

anyone got any news yet?? almost MICE time again?!

[readeral]

New year, new promises :P

[readeral]

It’s about time ECA made some sort of statement, but hey... probs not.

[tucrazy]

Any update on availability? Or at least an ETA?

[Nolbee]

Received this from Aillio responding to my query:

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Right now we are trying to get CB certification and we unfortunately do not know how much longer it will take, though we are hopeful that we may have in this summer. We realize a lot of folks in Australia are tired of waiting, but our hands are tied.

-- Taylor