Aillio R1 Bullet

[Nolbee]

I hope it is the Northern Hemisphere summer he is referring to.

[tucrazy]

Thanks Nolbee. Is it CB cert or UL & CE certs that they have/haven't obtained?

Hopefully there is an ETA soon, as this is dragging on a bit.

[Nolbee]

He only mentioned CB certification. It is certainly frustrating, I have had my order in since November 2015.

[readeral]

With CB certificate, SAA (for example) can issue a certificate within 5 days, or 1 day if expedited. You can guarantee that once the CB certification is done, the roasters will be on the next boat out to us.

Other coffee gear will land before local certification is done, and will have stickers applied when being primed and tested.

[brettreaby]

I was looking into the Aillio back in September 2016, as an upgrade to my Behmor.

After research and advice ( from a very senior forum member) I decided to go for a new 1kg Gas Roaster from fleabay for around 5k.

I concluded that the Aillio induction heating system would have to be complex and a maintenance risk.

So, after 120 1kg roasts I could not be happier and have only refilled the 9kg gas bottle about 20 roasts ago.

Given how long this thing is taking it seems to me some of you guys are missing out on the sheer fun of roasting on a bigger scale.

One of my favorite things is to give away freshly roasted beans to coffee nuts who get very excited.

Worth considering....

He only mentioned CB certification. It is certainly frustrating, I have had my order in since November 2015.

[readeral]

I was looking into the Aillio back in September 2016, as an upgrade to my Behmor.

After research and advice ( from a very senior forum member) I decided to go for a new 1kg Gas Roaster from fleabay for around 5k.

Worth considering....

I live in a small apartment in Sydney, there's no hope of me ever being able to have a permanently setup roaster.

The bullet solves a whole bunch of non-starters of the 1kg gas roaster option, even if at the expense of introducing other concerns.

[SniffCoffee]

I'm hoping ECA might look into this roaster too - which is ready to go and has some attractive features (like the chaff collector). They're looking for an Australian Agent. Only 400gms green beans per roast but able to do back to back roasts too.

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[brettreaby]

Readerall - agreed, it looks like a very nifty unit. Hope it all works out for you.

[tucrazy]

brettreaby, Thanks mate. Might start looking at alternatives, possibly soon.

SniffCoffee, That roaster appears good to me - Do you have any info such as cost? I might try to contact them directly.

[readeral]

It honestly just seems like a ridiculous red tape problem that they're trying to navigate at this stage. The Aillio guys seem just as frustrated as we are, because they still haven't officially got into key European markets either. You can bet they'd hoped for a better return on their investment by 2018 than they've actually pulled in... Hopefully they've got good cash flow to keep on top of the delays! Has killed many a promising crowd sourced company in the past.

The reason why Sweet Marias can sell in the US is anyone's guess, but my take is that they went a more direct route for the 120v variation's accreditation, given its really only the US that is a primary market for 120v. Also it has a slightly different design. However the US release ought to give us confidence in a global release soon.

Don't give up hope y'all!

[Ash]

Guarantee that it will arrive sometime between June and late September. I base this on the fact that I've had a pre-order in for two years now, and it is most likely to turn up when I am away for work......... And seeing as I am away for work from Jun until October, guess when it'll turn up

[HBexile2]

It honestly just seems like a ridiculous red tape problem that they're trying to navigate at this stage. The Aillio guys seem just as frustrated as we are, because they still haven't officially got into key European markets either. You can bet they'd hoped for a better return on their investment by 2018 than they've actually pulled in... Hopefully they've got good cash flow to keep on top of the delays! Has killed many a promising crowd sourced company in the past.

The reason why Sweet Marias can sell in the US is anyone's guess, but my take is that they went a more direct route for the 120v variation's accreditation, given its really only the US that is a primary market for 120v. Also it has a slightly different design. However the US release ought to give us confidence in a global release soon.

Don't give up hope y'all!

SM do not list any certifications, so maybe they intend to have them fly in under the radar.

As a casual observer it appears they contract out a company to make the roaster in small batches a few times per year, so it is not like they have a constant production line and inventory to clear out first. So in theory any necessary changes required for certification should be able to be implemented from one batch to the next. It was essentially a crowd sourced project, they needed the pre-orders to start the tooling process so perhaps it is just too much extra $ now to make the required changes to get them certified.

[Peter_Tomlins]

The wait for this seems nuts, but for those people waiting, it is a really satisfying machine to roast on.
Also check out beta.roast.world for the new roast sharing site that is being integrated with the software

[tucrazy]

The wait for this seems nuts, but for those people waiting, it is a really satisfying machine to roast on.
Also check out beta.roast.world for the new roast sharing site that is being integrated with the software

....Which, for me, is why it is so frustrating - ie it ticks most of my boxes, but I can't get one....frustrating.

Any MICE attendees spoke to ECA Re: Bullet's availability?

[mikef]

For those of you who received the update email about the Aillio roaster, the reasons for the delay appear to be now pretty clear. It appears that the delay is not due to delays caused by testing authorities. Aillio don't seem to be able to meet electromagnetic emissions standards and have to redevelop the inductive drum heating which requires the redesign of the PCB that controls drum heating. This type of inductive heating makes this roaster unique however emissions standards maybe why other roaster manufacturers have stayed with radiant and convection heating which require much higher power/energy. Let's hope that what makes Aillio so attractive can be made compliant too. Fingers crossed.