Aillio R1 Bullet

[celph]

So what's the deal with the bullet these days?

[Bosco_Lever]

Good news.
Any current owner of this roaster can easily swap out their existing PCB for the "new" updated, super duper certified one in the future.
The unit will still continue roasting regardles.......

[Caffeinator]

Just in from Charles Stephens: CEO of Site sponsor Espresso Company Australia who are the appointed local importer.

Hi Everyone,

Most of you patient people should already be on the direct Aillio newsletter database from them anyway, if not, please sign up on the below link for their ever increasing timely updates and communications.

We recently attended the Taiwan International Coffee Expo too which was a great experience to see another local region’s coffee culture also.

We spent good time talking and roasting with the Aillio Team on their stand at the show and also at their new office space consisting of an entire floor up high with 270 degree views of the local Taipei CBD. Good creative space to help finalise CB certification for the Australian and all other 220 / 240 Volt - 50/60 Hertz markets.

As the boys have mentioned in the Certification content below we saw the final Induction PCB that will this week be submitted to TUV (the international certifying agency) who will grant CB for Australia, New Zealand, Korea, Taiwan, Japan, etc …… in fact for all countries who are not 110 Volt.

So a mention from us in conjunction with the update from Aillio below is that we had a fun but more importantly an encouraging few days with Aillio and to physically see where they are up to with the entire project in general.
In fact it was Jonas himself who said that “in a strange way, the process of CB, has been the best thing for Aillio to work through as it has created a superior and more intelligent machine in every way”

With the final Induction PCB now in their hands sporting the final requested change from TUV, there are only a couple of simple amendments to achieve for CB safety standards which are already in a 3D Printed prototype stage and will be fitted to the three complete Bullet R1v2’s and finally submitted.

As always we will communicate the next announcements as soon as they come through, we are very excited that we are now so close to being able to provide the Aillio Bullet R1v2 to Australia.

[Caffeinator]

That said, some users still need warnings about the bleeding obvious. The door of a coffee roaster might get hot? Who would have thought but we know someone is not going to take anyone's word and try it for themselves (the old 'wet paint' syndrome)

I'm astonished that anyone in Australia is permitted to use a toaster!

[flynnaus]

As for certification, you'd wonder whether a bag of cash under the table was required?

Amongst other things, and from the mouth of Jonas, the certifying authority was concerned that "....the door will get hot"... and that "...it's too good looking. That might encourage children to play with it"...

I was heard to mutter "FFS!" under my breath. This environment of overregulation at times sh!ts me to tears.

We might see a Oz certified Aillio Bullet on our shores within my lifetime but I also wonder it it is driving up the price. I suspect it is already approaching unaffordable territory for many of us. Oh well, my KKTO is almost 10 years old now and still delivering and I still have a Behmor and a corretto for backup.

In the meantime, while certification can be a pain we have to be grateful that someone is trying to maintain standards
https://www.productsafety.gov.au/pro...ing/electrical
That said, some users still need warnings about the bleeding obvious. The door of a coffee roaster might get hot? Who would have thought but we know someone is not going to take anyone's word and try it for themselves (the old 'wet paint' syndrome)

[Caffeinator]

Yep- there are a few around and they are excellent. V2 is a big upgrade.

As for certification, you'd wonder whether a bag of cash under the table was required?

Amongst other things, and from the mouth of Jonas, the certifying authority was concerned that "....the door will get hot"... and that "...it's too good looking. That might encourage children to play with it"...

I was heard to mutter "FFS!" under my breath. This environment of overregulation at times sh!ts me to tears.

[Bosco_Lever]

While this is turning into the neverending story, I was interested if any members actually have this roaster. Any reviews are welcome.
And yes I know it has not been certified for sale in Australia, but that is simply a process of having certain components pass tests. The unit can be bought overseas, and it seems there are many happy home roasters out there.
A good friend is currently living and working overseas and is looking at buying the unit. It can be used where he is, and he has every intention of bringing it home when his contract is up. I am doing some research for him to help him bite the bullet and order one.

Any user experiences are welcome.

[Ash]

I could be a happy chappy come Christmas time, or I could still be waiting in March, celebrating 4 years since I placed and payed for one. Time will tell, I just hope they don't run into to many more issues with the certification process

[Caffeinator]

ECA said November at the earliest for CB certification...

Yep makes sense. Initial stock needs time to fly, arrive, clear customs and then be checked, bench-tested and shipped to resellers.

[Ash]

ECA said November at the earliest for CB certification in a Facebook post on their page about an hour ago (from when this was posted). They will advise the mailing list once it achieves certification. If delivery drags out to late March 2020, I'll have been waiting 4 yours for mine.

[Caffeinator]

Aillio provided an update last week which was republished by CS sponsor and Australian importer: Espresso Company Australia.

They're in the home straight and estimate they will have CE and CB certification in October.

Updated: Aillio have now provided a link to the post: https://medium.com/@aillio/certifica...6-dc6994e5cf08

[WorldOfRusty]

I thought I would get to the end of this thread and be closer to understanding the date for availability but no one seems to be the wiser. I came looking because I saw there was an event in Melbourne where they were doing a hands on demo on the unit. I was hoping that meant they were available but maybe they were just using a non Australian compliant version for the workshop. One day.. one day

[Caffeinator]

Certification. Pretty much the only current kicker is that "the door of the roaster might get hot"...

Seems the authorities are freaked by a roaster and then doubly freaked by an induction roaster.

A solution would be to sell it as a commercial roaster. It then becomes a "non-prescribed" appliance where importer and vendor need to satisfy themselves that it's electrically safe.

[celph]

So.....
Back in February some of us may of got an email saying it was only a few weeks away, It's now August. I decided to wait as was hesitant to put another deposit down again. But theres been no update since May?

[Yelta]

Found this on the Coffee Parts website:

"As of 1st May 2019 the Bullet R1v2 is in the final process of CB certification between Aillio and TUV (the accreditation body) and now a very different model to what has been currently available worldwide to date. Very soon Australia will be the chosen launch pad for the new Bullet R1v2 with the new electronics and IR sensor. However, Australia has very strict criteria for CB Certification as it also falls under Domestic 240v /10amp electrical household products. The process has also led to the refinement of a number of additional features that has even further enhanced the Bullet R1v2.

Currently all finalized features for the Bullet R1v2 are now lodged with TUV for CB evaluation and subsequent CB certification. We will of course continue to update you with the progress and milestones as they become available. As well as the physical roaster there have been continued upgrades to the software that comes complimentary with the roaster."

Seems like my 3 years + of waiting is nearly over!

Good news for them that's been waiting.