Behmor 1600 Plus - Coffee Roaster

[Javaphile]

Buut II liikee suucceessiivee vooweels!


Jaavaa "Whr wld w b wtht thm?!?" phiilee

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Java "Nothing to loose" phile

Except one's propensity to limit the use of successive vowels

[artman]

Yep, worst case they taste like #%^%#.

Just be mindful if you have a small domestic grinder like a Breville smart grinder they can struggle grinding the very light roast beans.

[Javaphile]

...or a filter brew or pour over.


Java "Nothing to loose" phile

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Thanks, Barry! I'll give that a go. Trust me to go with a tricky bean when trying to get my head around everything!

And how about those 2 roasts I just did? 400g that didn't quite get to 1st crack and 400g that were roasted for around 3minutes less than that again - are they usable, or should I just chuck 'em and start again?

As Java mentions......there's no downside to trying them. If they are no good in an espresso (which is likely), you might be able to make some cold brew out of them.

[Javaphile]

And how about those 2 roasts I just did? 400g that didn't quite get to 1st crack and 400g that were roasted for around 3minutes less than that again - are they usable, or should I just chuck 'em and start again?

Let them rest awhile and give them a taste. You never know what you have until you taste it!


Java "Better a taste test than just tossing them untried" phile

[SpeedBump]

The first thing I would do is drop the payload to 390 or 380g (partic if you are roasting outside). I would also consider switching to 100% power a bit earlier that the P3 profile suggests (say 40-45% of the way though the max roasting time). So if it is a 20 minute cycle, hit P5 with 11 minutes to go.

The Brazils can be tricky in the Behmor.

Thanks, Barry! I'll give that a go. Trust me to go with a tricky bean when trying to get my head around everything!

And how about those 2 roasts I just did? 400g that didn't quite get to 1st crack and 400g that were roasted for around 3minutes less than that again - are they usable, or should I just chuck 'em and start again?

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

The first thing I would do is drop the payload to 390 or 380g (partic if you are roasting outside). I would also consider switching to 100% power a bit earlier that the P3 profile suggests (say 40-45% of the way though the max roasting time). So if it is a 20 minute cycle, hit P5 with 11 minutes to go.

The Brazils can be tricky in the Behmor.

[SpeedBump]

Hi there. Brand new to serious roasting after upgrading from my popcorn machine where everything was chucked in for 8 minutes and no attention was paid whatsoever to first or second crack.

So - have got myself a Behmor and have noticed, obviously, a massive difference in my morning cuppa.

I'm still getting my head around how everything works and this morning did my first 400g roast of some Brazilian beans, so followed the suggestion in the instructions and selected P3.

I stuffed my first attempt by totally forgetting the Rosetta Stone thingy, so went into cooling mode after 21mins 30secs.

2nd attempt I was all poised to start increasing the roast time at first crack, but it never happened. So, 20 seconds from the end of the roast, I increased the roast time as much as possible (about an extra 2:50) and sat eagerly awaiting for first crack. Still, it never happened. And into cooling mode we went.

What should I do in this situation? And are the beans still going to give me a good coffee? For that matter, how about that first roast that was about 3 minutes shorter?

[artman]

What are the times to 1C for those roasts artman?

About 14 minutes for 1C and another 4-5 minutes to 2C.

The graph is a bit busy with numbers but you can see first crack in there.

Cheers

[LeroyC]

looking at getting into roasting...read a lot of mixed reviews of the behmor, and then after reading this thread have noticed that all the frustration seems to have come from the states. andy's pointed out the voltage issues and model differences several times, and seems like nothing but praise from the aussie roasters. so the behmor is on the radar.

i brew filter coffee: both pour-over and immersion. i currently buy filter roasted coffee and drink to enjoy the fruity and juicy flavours. so i would be roasting lightly and trying to develop fruity characteristics over body. i believe this is called a 'nordic roast'.

1. is this sort of roasting achievable with the behmor?
2. i read a few comments about the behmor's long cooling cycle robbing beans of fruity high notes. any truth to this?

In a word - yes. You're right about the 110v versus 240v versions differences, and yes the Behmor will be a great little roaster for what you want to do. If you're really bothered about the long cooling cycle you can accelerate it in a variety of ways that are well documented on CS.

[woodhouse]

looking at getting into roasting...read a lot of mixed reviews of the behmor, and then after reading this thread have noticed that all the frustration seems to have come from the states. andy's pointed out the voltage issues and model differences several times, and seems like nothing but praise from the aussie roasters. so the behmor is on the radar.

i brew filter coffee: both pour-over and immersion. i currently buy filter roasted coffee and drink to enjoy the fruity and juicy flavours. so i would be roasting lightly and trying to develop fruity characteristics over body. i believe this is called a 'nordic roast'.

1. is this sort of roasting achievable with the behmor?
2. i read a few comments about the behmor's long cooling cycle robbing beans of fruity high notes. any truth to this?

[LeroyC]

What are the times to 1C for those roasts artman?

[artman]

Here is the profile of 600g roast, pre heat 5 mins. the horizontal line is the heat %, 100 then 75 then 50 etc.



below is 550g mexican/ethiopian blend


Below is 350g zimbabwian


As you can see all very similar profiles with quite varied bean mass.

These are all with the bead temp probe in the bean mass, so should be quite representative of what the beans are doing.

Cheers

[artman]

Still heaps of room in the drum? What else would you like to know?
I have moved the wall sensor so it doesn't get hot and trigger the error code.

I keep it at 100% until 1C then go down to 75/50/25 to maintain a small ROR and cool / open door just prior or at start of 2C.

The 600g I did preheat (without the drum inside) for a few minutes but to be honest I don't think that makes too much difference.

Otherwise the roast appears as per normal.

I used to do 625g in my old corretto (quarter of green bean bag) and wanted to replicate in behmor.

What I should do is do a roast with a "standard" load of 300-400g and another of big 600+g batch and compare the taste of the beans (as well as BT roast profile).

Cheers