Behmor 1600 Plus - Coffee Roaster

[empty123]

Yes it ships with one.

Here are the links:

Behmor Manuals and Maintenance Updates – Behmor
http://www.behmor.com/docs/New-Progr...-Plus-V4.2.pdf

Enjoy.

[cafelazio]

Thankyou very much Barry and Empty123.
At the beginning of my learning curve roasting.

[Makka65]

I have an old clapped out 1600 that takes about 16 minutes to get 100g of most beans past the first crack and forever to the second crack where it tastes horrible. As well as this the elements cycle on and off during the roast when set at P1 is this normal? Does anyone know if the metric upgrade panel might fix this please?

[Lovey]

The elements will cycle on and off, that's normal. If you do upgrade to the 'plus' panel, you can force the elements to stay on using the manual control settings.
When was the last time you gave it a thorough cleaning? If you haven't cleaned inside the roasting chamber for a while, you'll get an accumulation of roasted coffee goodness on the internal walls. This will impede the temperature sensor doing it's job and will greatly lengthen the roast time. The sensor is located behind the right hand vertical internal panel (adjacent to the control panel). Give this panel a clean with some 'simple green' cleaner and wipe off. You should then see the roaster doing its thing in the right time frame.

[CafeLotta]

I have an old clapped out 1600 that takes about 16 minutes to get 100g of most beans past the first crack and forever to the second crack where it tastes horrible. As well as this the elements cycle on and off during the roast when set at P1 is this normal? Does anyone know if the metric upgrade panel might fix this please?

The new 1600 Plus replacement front panel may well resolve your issue. I have a 4 1/2 year old Behmor which behaved very similarly to yours after 50 odd roasts and less than a year old.

It struggled to get to first crack and baked rather than roasted. Changed sensors, the side control board and tried a couple of other suggested fixes from Behmor. No joy and frustrated, I shelved it for about 3 years. At the point of tossing it I thought I'd spend the $60 and try the 1600 Plus front panel. Instant fix and back to roasting with heaps more control available with the new functions.

Apparently it has been discovered that some of the electronics didn't like the harsh environment and heat. $60 not a lot to spend to find out if this will fix your issue.

If you do try it let us know here so others may benefit from your experience.

[Makka65]

Thanks CafeLotta and Lovey, I'll get the panel and give it a clean.

[CafeLotta]

Thanks CafeLotta and Lovey, I'll get the panel and give it a clean.

Here's the link to the 1600 Plus new functions (shown in imperial not metric) in case you missed it earlier in this thread.

http://www.behmor.com/docs/New-Progr...-Plus-V4.2.pdf

My 1600 Plus front panel didn't ship with any instructions or links to them and the updated Behmor site doesn't seem to show it. A few links seem to have disappeared.

A useful video on how to install the new front panel -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwKZuir8fQA

From memory the middle screw on the bottom of the side panels requires a special shape screw bit to undo it. From memory I think I bought a set of security screw bits from bunnings for $10-20 which had the right one in it.

The quick start manual shows the critical areas to clean on the last page -

http://www.behmor.com/docs/Short-Gui...-v8.0-OP-L.pdf

or video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY85Df-20-c

[Makka65]

Here's the link to the 1600 Plus new functions (shown in imperial not metric) in case you missed it earlier in this thread.

http://www.behmor.com/docs/New-Progr...-Plus-V4.2.pdf

My 1600 Plus front panel didn't ship with any instructions or links to them and the updated Behmor site doesn't seem to show it. A few links seem to have disappeared.

A useful video on how to install the new front panel -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwKZuir8fQA

From memory the middle screw on the bottom of the side panels requires a special shape screw bit to undo it. From memory I think I bought a set of security screw bits from bunnings for $10-20 which had the right one in it.

The quick start manual shows the critical areas to clean on the last page -

http://www.behmor.com/docs/Short-Gui...-v8.0-OP-L.pdf

or video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY85Df-20-c

Thanks heaps CafeLotta those will be invaluable! I will post the results once cleaned and installed. This roaster is years old and has done hundreds and hundreds of roasts it's Gunna need more than Clean Green to get the build up off....

[Lovey]

Do a 'dry burn' as per the manual, then hit it with some simple green, the residue will melt away.

[Makka65]

Do a 'dry burn' as per the manual, then hit it with some simple green, the residue will melt away.

Not oven cleaner? The non caustic one you use.in a cold oven.

[Lovey]

Is it a type that foams up? If so, I wouldn't recommend it, as foam is likely to expand and get into places that you might not want it to.

[CafeLotta]

This roaster is years old and has done hundreds and hundreds of roasts it's Gunna need more than Clean Green to get the build up off....

The Quartz heating elements are fragile so heed the warning about not getting any cleaner on them -

http://www.behmor.com/docs/Manual_Up...and_DC_Fan.pdf

You may want to check that the after-burner is working before taking off the sides and top. You can check this by doing the dry burn. Select 1/4 then Start. Once the cooling cycle starts, after 20 secs or so you should be able to see an orange glow through the perforations in the cover mounted on the internal roof of the Behmor. If not there may be a break in the wire element. If your confident in your abilities to do it safely, you can unplug the element with the top cover off. Then remove the internal cover and gently coax the element out taking note how it all fits in.
If broken near the end of the wire you can gently stretch and re-attach otherwise a new element or element wire required.

[Makka65]

Oh dear no glow, I'll try your suggestion to repair it but is it only for smoke suppression or will this also be affecting the roast time?

[CafeLotta]

Oh dear no glow, I'll try your suggestion to repair it but is it only for smoke suppression or will this also be affecting the roast time?

The element in the afterburner is fairly agricultural. The way the element wire is connected to the spade terminals is rough as and should at least have a washer either side I think to avoid putting a nick in the wire.

Not sure if it affects the roast time when not operating as designed.

I fixed mine while installing the new front panel. I figured it best to restore the Behmor back to original condition to avoid any hidden quirks in the system.

Forgot to mention earlier that that the spade end wire connectors to the external spades have a clip you need to depress to remove them otherwise rough handling can break the ceramic element carrier.

Apparently a broken element can also generate an error on the front panel display -
"Err4 — General causes are either a bad draw fan, bad or loose connection, afterburners not working or malfunctioning front panel."

It appears to be a fairly common fault in the Behmor and probably under designed for the job its meant to do.

http://coffeegeek.com/forums/coffee/homeroast/519248

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Oh dear no glow, I'll try your suggestion to repair it but is it only for smoke suppression or will this also be affecting the roast time?

It shouldn't lengthen roasting times, but in the process of trying to repair it you may well clean out a lot of crap that has built up inside the roaster. Note...the last time I fixed my afterburner, simply un-attaching and re-attaching the connectors did the trick (obviously there had been some movement over time....probably from being carried to the roasting bench).