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    Cannot wait for Q3. Also hoping for AU early access like the plus​.

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  • #2
    Gotta love remote!


    Java "Finally! A use for a Tablet!" phile
    Toys! I must have new toys!!!

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    • #3
      Sorry, no early back-stage pass for the connected Behmor in Australia, the tour starts with 120v in the USA this time.

      What you are seeing is one of the first prototypes, not a production version but the interface is cute on both Android and iPhone. Not too sure it will have enough "fiddleability" for CS'rs as it's real target is more towards first timers that want to press a profile button on their phone. I think the 1600 Plus will always be the one that tinkerers will want to use but the connected Behmor has nice features of saving your roast data in the cloud.

      Our 220v/240v build of the connected Behmor won't happen for more than 12 months but the upside is the American's can get rid of the bugs. :-)

      The plan is to also offer it as an upgrade kit (similar to the Behmor 1600 to 1600 Plus kit) so those that have a 1600 Plus can upgrade fairly easily with common tools and tad of common sense. As always, Behmor Inc will do their best to keep the price fair on the upgrade too.

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      • #4
        Hrrmmm.....Less control than the Plus?


        Java "Putting the Tablet away" phile
        Toys! I must have new toys!!!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Andy View Post
          Our 220v/240v build of the connected Behmor won't happen for more than 12 months but the upside is the American's can get rid of the bugs. :-)
          Hang on, wasn't the difference between 220V-240V and 110-120V is just the label on the buttons? 1/4, 1/2, 1 vs 100, 200, 400 and celsius vs fahrenheit for A and B?

          In this case, since all the interface is on a phone,.. why couldn't they launched together?

          Unless, the connected 1600 also requires changing the circuit board??

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          • #6
            Originally posted by kutis View Post
            Hang on, wasn't the difference between 220V-240V and 110-120V is just the label on the buttons? 1/4, 1/2, 1 vs 100, 200, 400 and celsius vs fahrenheit for A and B?

            In this case, since all the interface is on a phone,.. why couldn't they launched together?

            Unless, the connected 1600 also requires changing the circuit board??
            It's seriously anything but simple interface and NO the 120 and 220 isn't just a label change...

            This requires a full redesign of 2 PCBs, change in power supply, retool front panel, complex apps written for interface and a vastly different certification process because you are dealing with the FCCs of the world with 220v certification being extremely difficult because of different regs.

            In the USA none will be seen till Q4, and pricing will be significantly higher.......... as in 60% higher..

            As Andy stated we are looking at a year before they are 220v ready..


            There will conversion kits so anyone buying or who has bought current versions will be able to convert later when released in 2016.
            Last edited by Behmor; 4 March 2015, 12:41 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Behmor View Post
              This requires a full redesign of 2 PCBs, change in power supply, retool front panel, complex apps written for interface and a vastly different certification process because you are dealing with the FCCs of the world with 220v certification being extremely difficult because of different regs.
              Gotcha! But still 1600Watt right?

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              • #8
                Hi Joe, my apologies if this comes off as rudely blunt, but... why? On a product where in-built safety functions prohibit you being away from the machine at the end, what is the rationale behind offering a BT/WiFi interface? Even if the safety is removed, it's pretty much required that you come back to the machine around 1C to cut the roast at the right time, even if you're using an auto profile, no?

                Am I missing something, or is it like a BT/WiFi microwave? (which I can't imagine being popular)

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                • #9
                  Dragunov,
                  I'd think the advantage would lie more in the ability to easily save details of the roaster settings and roast profile (continuous readings from each of the two sensors etc), than the ability to control roaster from an external device.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dragunov21 View Post
                    Hi Joe, my apologies if this comes off as rudely blunt, but... why? On a product where in-built safety functions prohibit you being away from the machine at the end, what is the rationale behind offering a BT/WiFi interface? Even if the safety is removed, it's pretty much required that you come back to the machine around 1C to cut the roast at the right time, even if you're using an auto profile, no?

                    Am I missing something, or is it like a BT/WiFi microwave? (which I can't imagine being popular)
                    Not missing anything but BT/ WiFi can be set as a fence... walk outside that "fence" you'll get a "message" to return to the area within an allotted time and for those thinking of leaving their device within the fence and walk away, we have a fix for that too. Safety has been and is still at the forefront..
                    Last edited by Behmor; 4 March 2015, 12:23 PM.

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                    • #11
                      I'm in!

                      Official list:

                      1. Neofelis x 1

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
                        Dragunov,
                        I'd think the advantage would lie more in the ability to easily save details of the roaster settings and roast profile (continuous readings from each of the two sensors etc), than the ability to control roaster from an external device.
                        Ah; I hadn't thought about BT datalogging...

                        If you were able to pull and save temp graphs and (for example) set rules in the app (eg, when internal temperature reaches x°, set heater to 25%, etc etc) then I could definitely see the value.

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                        • #13
                          Upgrade from oldest version?

                          Can both the old 1600 and the 1600 plus be upgraded to the connected version?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by martinierius View Post
                            Can both the old 1600 and the 1600 plus be upgraded to the connected version?
                            Originally posted by Behmor View Post
                            There will conversion kits so anyone buying or who has bought current versions will be able to convert later when released in 2016.

                            Java "Say what?" phile
                            Toys! I must have new toys!!!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Javaphile View Post
                              Java "Say what?" phile
                              Sorry, missed that. [emoji32]

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