My behmor arrived - but watch out for that warning sticker

[GreenBeanGenii]

Eucalyptus oil is also excellent but not based on petroleum products...

Mal.

Agree with you,Mal. Eucalyptus Oil is great for removal of pesky label residues. I use it to tidy up large pill containers (like Fish Oil ones with 400 capsules.) After being so tidied, they go to the workshop for storage duties. They do not break if dropped.

[Dimal]

WD-40 sprayed on a cloth will remove the labels residue very nicely .

Eucalyptus oil is also excellent but not based on petroleum products...

Mal.

[JojoS]

The easiest way to reduce the learning curve is to stick to a constant charge weight and use the same coffee all the time until you become completely familiar with your gear. I believe Andy recommended a type that coffee that is quite forgiving. Get 5 kilos of that and learn from it. Then get some more. Adding all the bells and whistles is cool and data gathering is useful and before you know it, the height of summer sets in and you still need to make adjustments to that data. Developing the skill to use sight, smell and taste will always be your most valuable tool for a superior product. If you plan to use the Behmor Plus on manual mode, do it later when you have more experience.

[MrFreddofrog]

I think you're absolutely right, sight and smell (and taste obviously) are important though they only come with experience (or someone mentoring you I guess). I'm on my own so trying to reduce the learning curve by reading heaps and using data. ATM it's easier for me to see a roast stalling for example on a temp chart than see it or smell it or taste it days later.

[coffeechris]

You can read alot on here on what is right or wrong with roasting. I know many people first hand who can get a perfect roast out of the behmor and then repeat it over again. When I first started to roast i felt i needed every tool under the sun to help me create the perfect roast. After a while it came down to the senses i had being sight, smell and after its roasted my taste. I look back now and glad i took the time to use those senses to roast as i have a better understanding of it now which i may not have had i gone with all the technical profiling tools available.

I admit I still use Andys software and just received the new Heatsnob logger so i will be looking forward to trying this out.

To get back on to topic, I still feel having had one of these also first hand that they are good for someone who doesn't have a great understanding of roasting but wanting to become better at it. As you can choose a profile but also have some manual play in what the end result will be. For the price, easy of use when first running it I feel the Behmor roaster is a great roaster.

Cheers,

Chris

[MrFreddofrog]

Hi Chris

I've done a few roasts but wasn't happy with my ability to produce a consistent result so working hard on that. As I'm into data based decision making I'm spending a fair bit of effort (and money) investing in a decent thermometer and longer thermocouple. It all should be fitted in the next day or two and we'll be back in business.

But I also need to work out how to keep the rod that holds the cooling flap in place. It's come out twice now. Behmor support said just to put a dob of glue on the end of the rod like they do. I'm just waiting on them to tell me what type of glue they use as many glues will release toxic fumes when heated. Alternatively I may just make a C clip myself which is what they initially told me how the rod is held in place. Either way I still need to work out how to access that area as the right hand side of the unit has all the motors and circuit boards etc.

All fun and games...

[coffeechris]

I wasnt going to chime in but at the end of the day you new version of the panel might work mrfrog... But
This roaster was designed for people who might not have much roasting experience to someone who has a lot of experience. Simple to use with some variation.
Your variation to the panel goes away from this and i dont see it as a sellable or viable change to something that has proven to be a great product. As Andy pointed out with the figures.

Maybe concentrate on your own roasting. With the behmor how it is Mrfrog have ypu gotten some great roasts out of it??

Cheers,

Chris

[MrFreddofrog]

If everyone is so over this topic, why are you bumping it almost everywhere here?

Your supposed robust chat sounds more like trumpet blowing....

Then I have not had enough caffeine yet to cope with all of this.

:rolleyessmiley:

I am not "bumping" as you put it, just responding to comments, exactly the same as everyone else

[Dubleshot]

WD-40 sprayed on a cloth will remove the labels residue very nicely .

[Gavisconi007]

I think from memory I spent the sum total of around 3 minutes reading my Behmor Manual. It has sat on the shelf above my roaster since the first day never to be opened again.

As they say, there's one in every crowd.......

[GreenBeanGenii]

I think everyone one is over this topic. However I can guarantee if you showed both designs to people with no coffee roasting experience, they will without doubt say my panel design is much easier to understand.

If everyone is so over this topic, why are you bumping it almost everywhere here?

Your supposed robust chat sounds more like trumpet blowing....

Then I have not had enough caffeine yet to cope with all of this.

:rolleyessmiley:

[TC]

Great. You can have it built then.

Perhaps a few thousand of them might be a suitable start. You'll have one for you and 2999 to sell as a retrofit for those who want one.

Tick off all the legals and you're ready to roll.

[chokkidog]

So give yourself a medal, you obviously want one.

[MrFreddofrog]

I think everyone one is over this topic. However I can guarantee if you showed both designs to people with no coffee roasting experience, they will without doubt say my panel design is much easier to understand.

[Dimal]

As a few longer term members of CoffeeSnobs know, I have suffered a series of small strokes that left me with permanent deficits in a number of areas, but the one that really makes life difficult for me, is that of possessing only about 10% of the short-term memory capacity I used to have. This has the very frustrating effect of making it very difficult for me to learn new things, regardless of the platform, device, User Manual, you name it.

In a nutshell, I had close to zero issues in getting to grips with how to get the best out of my Behmor and the very few times I had queries about a couple of aspects in its operation, Andy fixed me up with answers I needed on the same day the questions were put to him. Once learned, there was no looking back and from all the great results I have read, from fellow CSers both new and longer term, it seems to me that the vast majority of Behmor Owners enjoy using one as much as I did.

Seems like nothing more than another 'storm in a tea-cup', doesn't happen with coffee...

Mal.