My behmor arrived - but watch out for that warning sticker

[sprezzatura]

I can't wait to initiate a brew sitting on the throne: how cool would that be? Professional baristas eat your hearts out [emoji14]

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

I'm still worried about dropping my snarkphone with Behmor apps into the toilet prior to brewing a Brazen batch (in the future).

You'll just have to go hunting for it then.

[sprezzatura]

I'm still worried about dropping my snarkphone with Behmor apps into the toilet prior to brewing a Brazen batch (in the future).

[Javaphile]

It pays to read an entire post rather than just the first sentence. If you had and bothered to do a bit of research instead of simply continuing to rail you would have realized there are already big changes in the works for the panel/control of the roaster and not bothered with your last post which does little other than to show you haven't researched the very changes you say you want, even after you were pointed in that direction.


Java "*cough* Behmor *cough* Connected *cough*" phile

[kyeba]

Their panel is simplicity and achieves the same as your design. But I'd assume the manual would highlight the lowest to hottest temp for each setting, so you'd only need to look at that once or twice to get it.

Do you redesign every appliance you buy? There's nothing wrong with being creative, but they are what they are, or else they wouldn't do well.

[MrFreddofrog]

True but not withstanding your very valid cost concerns, do you think my idea has validity?

If not then so be it. If so, then that at least opens the door for change.

All I really hope to achieve is for Behmor to realise what a crap panel they have. Realising that is the first step. That then puts them in a better position to challenge the "that's the way we have always done it" mindset.

[Javaphile]

Changing the panel means rewriting the software and a recertification of the roaster. i.e. Lots more time and dollars, both of which will be reflected in a higher price to the buyers. Then of course there's the whole issue of a redesign already coming down the pike.


Java "*cough* Connected *cough*" phile

[MrFreddofrog]

Haha, that water filter was definitely a rant! No probs all. I believe in freedom of speech so extremely happy to have anyone have a go at me. Just be civil about it and if I'm wrong I'm more that willing to apologize.

Wrt to the Behmor the main problem thus thus far is the user interface rather than it's capability. The front panel sucks and I have told them so directly. I have also given them an alternative layout. (Come to me with solutions not problems philosophy). My design is a lot more intuitive, no more multipurose buttons, you don't need manual to know their function or have to memorise them cause it is obvious that they do. My design has passed though held desk and been forwarded onto the powers that be. (Edit: Have a look at the attachment and see which is more intuitive.)

They may take on some of my suggestions or they may not. TBH it doesn't bother me, at least I've given them some constructive feedback and tried to help them.

With respect to the units capability, that is my issue not theirs. I know the unit is capable, I just need to learn how to use it hence my questions around how to control rate or rise.

Edit: btw, the issue with my loose cooling flap was a missing C clip.

[sprezzatura]

We like arguing and ranting!

[WantRancilio10]

Rather than repeatedly rant on the forum

Barry may have remembered certain conversations about water filtration etc.
But hey indulging a little rant here and there is entertaining and shows the forum isnt too precious...

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Please show me where I am repeatedly ranting.

Fair enough, my apologies, maybe 'ranting' is too strong a descriptor. But, you've owned the roaster for a very short period of time (have you actually tasted any beans yet?). So far, we've seen Posts #4 and #7 in this thread, and the new thread you started about the roaster's inability to maintain a desired profile. A few times it has been suggested that if you have a problem with your roaster to contact Andy (presumably the vendor) in the first instance.

[MrFreddofrog]

Please show me where I am repeatedly ranting.

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

No definitely as annoying as DOA. This thing though has a multitude of design flaws, mainly around the interface design. I'll be writing to them so I can understand their logic cause as it stands, this is one of the most unintuitive appliances I have ever owned.

Rather than repeatedly rant on the forum, have you actually contacted Andy?

What is it that you are comparing the Behmor to? Have you owned another roaster in the price range? I have, an i-Coffee and a Gene.....both are in working order....but I use the Behmor week in and week out.

[leoniedukes]

Very true, setting my first batch on fire and covering the inside of the machine with soot certainly put the label residue in perspective!

[sprezzatura]

In perspective, people: this is a $500 roaster. I roast coffee that tastes better than my friend's coffee out of his $60,000 roaster and if I tip a batch it costs me a few bucks instead of hundreds of dollars.