Decent DE1Pro

[yochiya]

Rejoice!

Congrats

[PhatBoy]

Thanks guys. I've been able source a pre loved Decent through the CS forum

[PhatBoy]

They got a steal

[PhatBoy]

hose that jumped early got a bargain.

They got an absolute steal

[amberale]

I am far less concerned with the possible flex than the noise from the pump.
Its not an issue for me as I don’t want that big a machine or to fiddle with settings etc, I’m looking more for simplicity.
I still think it is one of the top 5 prosumer machines out there at the moment and those that jumped early got a bargain.

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

My Achille (which I haven't used for a while) uses the CMA group and double-spring. I don't believe that it has any noticeable flex...certainly nothing like on that video (but it is built like a very ugly tank and sounds like one too).

[338]

Amberale unfortunately I don't think that was a development machine. Like you I would
prefer if it was

[amberale]

Two springs IIRC so yes significant stress but I think those videos were of the Frankenstein development machine which did not have the extra support behind the group.

[WhatEverBeansNecessary]

I get some flex on my profitec pro 800 which has a similar group head/lever system. From what I have seen the strega and londinium have the same amount also. Nearly impossible not to get some flex to a small degree.

[PhatBoy]

Yes there is some flex. The San Marco group heads are commercial, and weigh a lot more than other types. Thats a serious spring. There's also a thread i started in extreme machines you wan to post on that for more info.

[FNQ]

Hi Phat Boy and others

I googled the vesuvius Evo to see the very pretty machine and just chanced upon this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBvG8yRFCGM

I know nothing about them, but is the movement in the group head when the handle is pulled down rotational/ normal / or is that a bit of flex? sorry for taking the thread a tad off base.

[Caffeinator]

Given that they appointed site sponsor Jetblack Espresso as their Australian agent so that they can ensure that there is local support for what is a complex machine, it makes sense that they might not want to shaft them.

Makes for good relationships and local parts and service. If they're anything like some of the early Vesuvius machines, they can be a royal pr!ck to repair.

[amberale]

Bugger.
It is a ripper though.

[PhatBoy]

What do you mean you can’t order direct anymore?

I was keen on a Vesuvius Evo Lever. The first 2 batches of machines you could order directly at an amazing price.

[michaelc]

What do you mean you can’t order direct anymore?