!!!PRESUMED SOLD!!! - Trade - E61 for double boiler. Reluctantly

[Barry_Duncan]

The warmup time for the Breville Dual Boiler is not half an hour. More like 7 minutes, thanks to an extra PID controlled heating element within the group head. I have mine set to turn on 15 minutes before I rise.

Barry

[GreenBeanGenii]

Can't help but agree again



I know what I'm doing is reprehensible to you all, but it's not just me who needs to be happy.

I, for one, think it sad you should even feel this is reprehensible.

Smple fact of domestic life that choices need to be made for family dynamics to stay intact.

I hope you get a working solution soon .

[rawill]

I guess I am showing my ignorance. I leave my EM6910 on 24/7. It goes to sleep, but stays warm.
I click on one button, put the empty P/F in the holder, and it is about 5 minutes to all the lights on and the p/f all hot and ready for action.

Does the OP unit not have this sleep function.

[WantRancilio10]

Well I'm glad weekends worked out well...

the chord is not able to be left plugged in as it drapes across the induction top cooker to reach the power outlet.

Doesn't matter what machine you have... this doesn't seem acceptable

[WantRancilio10]

Does the OP unit not have this sleep function.

No. E61 units have way way more metal in the group head. Just not as practical.

[chokkidog]

I wish you well in your endeavour and understand the issues that have brought it about.

Despite Mal misinterpreting my intent in post #2 I was only encouraging you to post accurate info

so that you might be more successful. Sometimes the written word fails to carry the emotion behind them,

in this case ..tongue in cheek.

[blend52]

You obviously want to make this change, but to me your reasons do not add up !
..warm up time, cable routing, etc etc, are all easily solved issues

[WantRancilio10]

in this case ..tongue in cheek.

I'm with Mal on this one - it came across as you considered anything by Diadema to be rubbish (which we know is not true, including the Perfetta)

[chokkidog]

Nah. Read the post. Nothing wrong with Diadema, or I would have said so...... and then suffered the consequences! :-)

I just wouldn't swap one of the others that I mentioned unless someone offered me a GS/3 or Speedster.

If anyone does the deal and gets to upgrade to the Perfetta... they win.

p.s. " I would have said so'......Actually I wouldn't have said anything to harm the OP's opportunity...'nuff said.

[saoye]

Why a DB? Why not a HX? I don't think the E61 group head has anything to do with the problem...a HX or DB will improve dramatically the steam volume without the priming and waiting for steam temp that a single boiler requires.

[Giddyupgaz]

Great to hear, lets add a HX to the list of possible trades.

best I do some research on what I may need to be looking at

[readeral]

It's lever activated, no electronic volumetric. I suspect (that is, I'm making an assumption) the OP equates double boiler with 'automatic', which, if I'm right, is fair enough - most of them do have buttons rather than the e61 lever style. Well, I'm assuming this because of the 'want to make it and go' comments. It's easier for an unskilled operator to make a coffee on the fly when using a machine that takes care of how long your shot pulls. Not saying it's better - but I totally understand why the OP is keen for a swap to a "double boiler" (read, one touch operation) machine in his circumstances.

That's how I make sense of the situation.

It'd be a hard sell to get a DB owner to move back to a single boiler, even if it is a Breville - usually people have double boilers cause they want their milk coffee. Irrespective of being happy to make up the cost difference, as far as general coffee making preferences are concerned, I think you're unlikely to find success.

Better off to talk to a few of your local site sponsors to see if they'll do a trade in for a Expobar Minore or something similar.

[Edit - oops.. Minore still e61. Try the Nuova Simonelli Musica on for size. It's a heat exchanger, so will do milk and shot at the same time, but has volumetric buttons]

[WantRancilio10]

Your location would help!
To ask someone to trade 'down' will be hard enough as it is (unless you're willing to consider a thermoblock). Or is that the plan - this is all a charade - you're actually too 'reluctant' to part with it?


There's a stack of different dual boilers out there and an even bigger stack of different HXs. Buying one of those and selling the Perfetta separately (which shouldn't be hard) is a more realistic outcome but hey... it doesn't hurt to try (to trade).

One advantage of the Perfetta in an apartment setting is its size... If you go DB or HX it might not be just the silly cord situation interfering with the cooker

[TC]

Hello giddy,

I think the solution is easy. Best bet is to sell your machine to someone looking for a great single boiler machine and then purchase whatever you think you need.

I can't see that the owner of any HX, Dual boiler or superauto is going to be interested in a trade down to a machine which is best suited to an espresso purist. Our espresso machine buyers guide might help you to determine what it is that suits your requirements.

Cheers

Chris

[Giddyupgaz]

Location was on post #8, sorry should have added it to the opening post.
I'm in Melbourne

Yes the size of the Perfetta was a major selling point, as was the look and performance.
Yes the reluctance to part with it means I am looking for a good deal, but hoping someone is looking for a genuinely good shot making machine to continue their coffee journey. Otherwise selling it and waiting on a good deal to pop up will be the best outcome I think, and by the PM' that doesn't look like it will be that hard