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  • #46
    Re: BeanBay monthly sale - Tuesday 10th March 2009

    Originally posted by 72797B74796A73796D6B180 link=1236567464/44#44 date=1236758495
    No need to be titchy
    Nah, not titchy Jack, sometimes frustrated that some CSrs dont "get it" and more likely than not a little grumpy during my long hours (Ive had about 15 hours sleep since Friday, Im still at the Snobbery roasting and will be for many hours yet so "new projects" really dont appeal).

    Im not a "coffee god", Im good at what I do but at the end of the day Im just Andy, having fun and doing much the same as all the other CSrs. Coffee roasting is a journey, you are never "there" just a little further along an infinite path and if you dont walk the path you cannot trace your steps later Grasshopper.

    A lot of forums and websites around the world (ok, let not beat around the bush) a lot of forums and websites in the USA will tell you that "this is the only way to roast this particular coffee", everything else is wrong.

    HOGWASH.

    For example, in the roasting session I have done for the Coffee Academy I roast the same bean with 5 different profiles, each profile has the same drop temperature, the same turn temperature, identical 1st crack to second crack rampings and identical cooling cycles. The only difference was the time and heat application from the turn to 1st crack.

    All 5 of these roasts are good roasts, none are correct, none are wrong and all have the same (or very close to) ground colour too.

    I have had 3rd generation roasters amazed at the difference that you the roaster can introduce to a bean just changing the ramp to 1st crack.

    Roasting really is a mixture a science and art, so dont look for a magic pill, just throw some in your roaster, take lots of notes while roasting, taste the results and take more notes. Next roast change something (just change one thing) and see if it improves, take more notes. etc etc etc.

    The journey should be as much fun as the destination.

    8-)

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    • #47
      Re: BeanBay monthly sale - Tuesday 10th March 2009

      Well put Andy i couldnt agree more.
      Reading the forums taking in the thoughts of the other CSrs is definitely the best way to help in experimentation. I remember when i i first joined CS the best advice i got was to read, read, read and then read some more.

      And as Csrs say, its all in the cup, and perhaps for many the journey is always just as satisfying, i know it is for me.

      Mal

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      • #48
        Re: BeanBay monthly sale - Tuesday 10th March 2009

        Seconded

        I am really really new here but....

        one thing -

        I like white, the wife likes red.

        Here we go, the old red meat/white meat blah, blah, blah...

        My award winning winemaker mate says, "If you like it, then it is right".

        I was thinking along jaclarkaus path but you have straightened me out.

        Well said Andy.

        Chris

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        • #49
          Re: BeanBay monthly sale - Tuesday 10th March 2009

          Thanks Andy for Your Honesty on this . It Is more than obvious to me now that you are indeed a busy man.. Keep up the good work looking forward to learning , listening , reading , more about Roasting .

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          • #50
            Re: BeanBay monthly sale - Tuesday 10th March 2009

            Finally some peaberry. Maybe Ill have to buy some. Good as a single origin or should I mix with an Ethiopian bean I have?

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            • #51
              Re: BeanBay monthly sale - Tuesday 10th March 2009

              Originally posted by 535641525F584D370 link=1236567464/49#49 date=1236843555
              Finally some peaberry. Maybe Ill have to buy some. Good as a single origin or should I mix with an Ethiopian  bean I have?
              Hi Dave,

              The descriptors in beanbay state:

              This Brazil Peaberry RFA (Rain Forest Alliance) is a very well graded bourbon varietal peaberry with a very clean with a consistant bean size makes it easy to get a good looking roast. In the cup it produces a mid bodied, front palate, sweet espresso which works well as a single origin coffee or could be used as a base bean in a post roast blend.

              Hope that was what you were after?

              2mcm

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              • #52
                Re: BeanBay monthly sale - Tuesday 10th March 2009

                Thanks Andy. Fantastic service as usual.

                The Peaberry and Tanzania have joined the other greens in the bottom of the pantry. (Dont get comfortable but, fellas [smiley=evil.gif] - the weekend roast isnt far away!)

                Have a GREAT weekend and week down there, Melbournites. Wish I was there.

                Greg

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                • #53
                  Re: BeanBay monthly sale - Tuesday 10th March 2009

                  I just pinched the last 5kg of the Yemen....cant get enough of this stuff!

                  I also went for a kg of each of the chocs....looking forward to those in winter out on the boat!

                  Cheers

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                  • #54
                    Re: BeanBay monthly sale - Tuesday 10th March 2009

                    Hi Andy

                    Beans have arrived promptly as usual - thank you.

                    One question, however, regarding the Tanzanian - your description read "large, well graded and washed beans" but the beans I have received are rather small and overall pretty motley - similiar in fact to the Ethiopians I have in my stash. Was the size of this bean inconsistent over your stock - or heaven forbid have I got something else by mistake?

                    Regards

                    Ron

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                    • #55
                      Re: BeanBay monthly sale - Tuesday 10th March 2009

                      Weird!?!
                      I assume it had a sticker on the bag.

                      We only pack one type of bean at a time so in all the time we have done this we have never mixed them up.

                      The BeanBay pictures are of the actual beans, a random sample of 300g and the pictures are taken in the same spot, same lighting and same method each month.

                      Can you email me a picture of the beans?

                      Picture from BB is below.


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                      • #56
                        Re: BeanBay monthly sale - Tuesday 10th March 2009

                        Ill have a go - thanks Andy.

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                        • #57
                          Re: BeanBay monthly sale - Tuesday 10th March 2009

                          A pic of the Tanzania beans I received from you, Andy (presumably from the same batch as Rons).

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                          • #58
                            Re: BeanBay monthly sale - Tuesday 10th March 2009

                            Hi Andy, I was hopping on to say thanks again for the great service when I noticed Rons post. My Tanzanian are small, not large, I will post a picture when I can find my camera.

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                            • #59
                              Re: BeanBay monthly sale - Tuesday 10th March 2009

                              Cant compare them with my other Tanzanian at the moment (got too much wine in my cellar), but will revise my size estimate to medium.

                              Anyway, about to roast them and as per usual dont care what they look like, if they are as good as the other Tanzanian over the years then I will be delighted.

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                              • #60
                                Re: BeanBay monthly sale - Tuesday 10th March 2009

                                Originally posted by 78657D6E6F6F0A0 link=1236567464/58#58 date=1237000726
                                revise my size estimate to medium
                                Yeah, I was talking about the roasted beans being large. They are graded as AA but I suspect might be A/AA

                                Greg and Rons beans look right. There are always some shells and parchment in these and the amount will vary between bags. While being a washed coffee it has not been washed enough to polish the beans so they still have a fair amount of chaff when roasting and seem to gain in body because of that too.

                                Originally posted by 78657D6E6F6F0A0 link=1236567464/58#58 date=1237000726
                                if they are as good as the other Tanzanian
                                We have them in our grinder at home now, great single origin espresso.

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