BeanBay Monthly Sale - TUESDAY 11th August 2009

[andrew75]

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Gday,

First post to CS, very recent member so hello to all.

Further to Andys post, just like to add that Tana Torajah (spelling varies) definitely exists (as a region) as I had the great fortune to work there a few years back. It is an amazing place, breathtakingly beautiful with very friendly local folks. Ironically, I struggled to get a good cup of coffee there but did secure some mighty fine beans.

cheers,
Andrew

[flynnaus]

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Confused?

Not at all. Thanks for that. Clear as .....a blank shot?!! :-?

I agree that the name doesnt matter or indicate what to expect just because it shares a name with other beans from a region.

Theres been a few discussions about Aricha and even Beloya but I found out that Yirgacheffe is the central point to these places and I wondered if a bean labeled as Yirgacheffe could actually come from these places - but I told myself that was unlikely. But given my experience of Yirg beans and the reports on the Aricha beans, there must be something wonderful about that part of the world to produce such extraordinary coffee.

[Andy]

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Sulawesi Rante Kapua Torajah). Would this be significantly different?

Yep. Coffee changes across the same farm, region, country. The single biggest difference is often the processing between lots. The Rante Kapua Torajah from earlier in the year was a traditional washed coffee (unusual for the region) and the Tana Torajah Kalosi this month is a wet hulled (more usual). The grading of this is also different. In the roaster this produces far more chaff, in the cup this one is earthier and has more body.
Ignore the names, try the coffee blind and use your senses to see just how different two coffees from close proximity can be (works for me!)

I googled Torajah and found Toraja refers to the highland people of Sulawesi

Dont always trust google for coffee research... I expect google will tell you "Blue Mountain" is west of Sydney not a coffee area in Jamaica


The biggest gotcha with google for coffee research is that the producers of coffee are not the ones posting content, mostly its a broker or a middleman who has "best guessed" the verbal to written translation. Well that and the fact that anglo text on the bags is randomly spelt makes it very hard to hope that a word search will return the right answer.

Tana Torajah or Toraja or Torrajah (I have seen all on bags) is the area, Kalosi or Kallosi or Kalossi is the town.

We have even had spelling change from the same estate but different crop years.

This isnt unique to coffee growing areas either. The latte championships were in Germany (Bundesrepublik Deutschland or Deutschland for short) the town was Cologne (or Koln or Köln or Kölner or Kolner or even Kölen and Kolen)

Confused?
I think Ill stop typing now.
8-)

[flynnaus]

Re: BeanBay Monthly Sale - TUESDAY 11th August 2009

Another nice line up Andy.

Certainly agree with that. Another great opportunity to celebrate being a CSer.

hazchem wrote on Yesterday at 15:04:
Kuda Mas at home that Ive been enjoying so itll be interesting to compare with the Mystic TP

Chalk and cheese...

Sulawesi Tana Torajah Kalosi - This is a grade one Torajah  

There was a Torajah in the February BB (Sulawesi Rante Kapua Torajah). Would this be significantly different? I googled Torajah and found Toraja refers to the highland people of Sulawesi so I guess the answer is yes, it might well be different (or not  :-/)

When everyone has made their purchases tonight (or even before) you might also consider participating in this months Bean Club

[Dennis]

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Another nice line up Andy.

Were really enjoying the China Pearl at home and the customers love the PNG, Darjeeling, Chai, and Red African. Consider myself and our customers to be very fortunate to have so many CoffeeSnobs products on the shelves.

[Andy]

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Kuda Mas at home that Ive been enjoying so itll be interesting to compare with the Mystic TP

Chalk and cheese... we have had multiple Kuda Mas samples over the years and they never get close this level of bean. Will be interesting to see if you agree.

Im gonna need a bigger boat

I certainly know what you mean!

Re: BeanBay Monthly Sale - TUESDAY 11th August 2009

more interesting beans to play with! woo hooo, thanks Andy!

I have some Kuda Mas at home that Ive been enjoying so itll be interesting to compare with the Mystic TP.

Another Indo and a chance to grab some Wahgi to have a go at roasting myself isa attractive too...

Then more Ethiopians!

Im gonna need a bigger boat ...

[Humphrey]

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All the best African coffees have had a very sharp price rise, great Kenyans are $13-$15+ and we are seeing similar from all African countries.

Thats fair. I hope that the workers are getting a bigger cut now :-)

It roasts pretty evenly for a dry process bean

A Harar that roasts evenly? This Ive gotta see (and buy) :-)

We have a pile of Centrals and South American heading here over the next couple of months so it will look like a central bais then.

Oooh.. I cant wait! Ive been drinking some Guatamala SHB lately, and its been amazing!

[Andy]

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does the quality of the harrar match its higher price?

Hard to tell. All the best African coffees have had a very sharp price rise, great Kenyans are $13-$15+ and we are seeing similar from all African countries. I think this Harar is a ripper (else I wouldnt have bought it). It roasts pretty evenly for a dry process bean and is full of blueberry goodness in the cup. I think it justifies the price, it will be interesting to hear thoughts from other CSrs after they roast it.

are from either Ethiopia or Indonesian/png?Is this just how it turned out, or does coffee availability depend on what season we are in?

... a bit of both and the other variable is my own bias ;-)

These are amazing coffees and we grab them as soon as they land here. The indos we cupped 3-4 months ago and pre-bought nearly $20k worth of them! Crop and shipping cycles play a big part but there are times of the year where particular countries are really good too. We have a pile of Centrals and South American heading here over the next couple of months so it will look like a central bais then.

[beanflying]

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Yeah I have space back in my storage bins Back to only 50kgs and NEED most if not all of these :

[Pavoniboy]

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Im very intrigued with the raw Cacao beans, whats the deal there with home roasting and processing?
Blue Skies.

Roasting...easy! You should be able to do it on whatever coffee roasting setup you have, or if not simply in your oven. Search for chocolate alchemy for much advice.

Processing is more difficult. Jump to the Mmmmm...chocolate thread under wishing well for chocolate info. Im going great in my chocolate making. Put any questions you have up on the chocolate thread and I will do my best to answer them for you. Will check it tonight.

[Humphrey]

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Ooohhhh... I love this time of the month! Pity I have a tennis lesson at 7.30. Ill just cross my fingers that it rains and gets postponed. It has almost every week so far :-P Gotta love Tassie!

So Andy, does the quality of the harrar match its higher price? Not that I care too much -- Can never buy too much harrar!

I notice that all the featured beans this week are from either Ethiopia or Indonesian/png? Is this just how it turned out, or does coffee availability depend on what season we are in?

Im also a fan of Orange Pekoe Tea -- so Ill be building up my selection of tea for work!

[skycam]

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With 10 or more coffees, 6 teas, 2 cocoas and 2 cacao beans there is plenty of choice for everyone.

Sounds great Andy, I hope to have success this month, was too late for some offerings last month, gotta be quick I see.
As a novice to the art of roasting, Im very intrigued with the raw Cacao beans, whats the deal there with home roasting and processing?
Blue Skies.

[redzone121]

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I am goung to take 2 sleeping pills and go to bed at 9.55pm NZ time.
What a list :-/

[csutak40]

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Not fair!  [smiley=cry.gif] [smiley=angry.gif] [smiley=cry.gif] [smiley=angry.gif]  [smiley=cry.gif] [smiley=angry.gif] I have to go to an AGM on Tuesday evening [smiley=cry.gif] [smiley=angry.gif] [smiley=cry.gif]