BeanBay Green Bean Release - July 2013

[Andy]

Thanks for the advice Andy. Saved me from the mistake of too much heat early on.

Sure, but I think you would have noticed that they were progressing quickly and backed it off a little... it's the beauty of home roasting and getting to know your equipment, you can then make on the fly adjustments to suit different beans and environmental conditions.

[Pavoniboy]

Thanks for the advice Andy. Saved me from the mistake of too much heat early on.

[eltoro]

The aroma of the Mokka green beans is amazing. Really looking forward to roasting them and pulling some shots.

[Andy]

If you go into the shop, check out the price for the Mokka green beans in the list on the left hand side, add shipping costs and then reflect on the price Andy has pegged on it!! 8-O

Love your work Andy!!!

Yep, CS'rs can get 2.5 kilos including delivery anywhere in Australia for about $20 less than you can buy the beans in Hawaii. We buy in bulk and you guys pay the landed price... spoilt eh!


Roasting? Dead easy!
Near perfect grading on these beans means that you have great control during the roast. Use a fairly "normal" profile, forget Yemen density, think more Australian bean. The Vanuatu is very similar in roasting style... another low altitude arabica that won't need a blow-torch early in the roast.

We have a kilo of the Maui in the grinder at the Snobbery now and Craig and I are drinking way too much coffee... I just finished another doppio, long lingering taste that leaves you licking your lips for an hour after. I caught Craig sticking his finger in the bottom of the espresso cup earlier and I had already done that... it's that sort of coffee!

[Steve82]

I just got mine and wow they are small, I thought the lentil comments may have been slight joke/ exaggeration.

I am wondering how they are going to behave in the bread pan..

As chokidog said and linked to these look to be grown at low altitude 500ft. So isn't that going to make them softer? Coupled with the tiny size makes me think they are going to be quite delicate.

My first instinct, for my setup anyway, would be not to subject these to a long roast, but at the same time I need to be gentle about it. Haha if that makes sense.
I might take a stab at them later today. I'm thinking 500g , with a pre heat that's not to aggressive but enough so that I don't have to blast these pretty little beans with too much hot air.

Look forward to hearing more input from older hands than I.

[Pavoniboy]

Well I just ordered some Mokka. I haven't bought green beans for a long time now. I realised I had a problem when my stocks got up around 50kg and I am the only coffee drinker in my house. So luckily I have managed to dwindle those stocks to about 5kg and thus justify a purchase of this Mokka. Can't wait to try this one! And good timing in that I just roasted the last of my Yemen Bani Ismail a few days back. I can try them one after another.
I'm guessing it will need a fair bit of heat early on, and then may tend to get away from you easily between 1st and 2nd crack in a similar fashion to the Yemen.
I shall also hope Andy bestows some of that wisdom upon us with a few tips for roasting this one.

[Kevo]

Mokka on the way!! Also keen to hear Andy's suggestions on how to roast this one; too expensive to risk screwing it up!!

I ordered the Mokka and the Vanuatu on Tuesday evening and they were delivered to my door early this morning.
Great service Andy. And thank you Paula for your packaging update email.

As I currently have a fair stock of browns, I intend to roast 600g of the Mokka hopefully next week in my 1kg CCR, so any roast advice forthcoming will be appreciated and noted.
Being a small bean (lentil-like) they would probably be similar in density to Yemen as flynnaus has stated, so leaning towards a longer roast time at the moment.

This has been my first BeanBay purchase since September last year. I thought I could/would last longer but "tuning" in the CCR and an increase in "friends" trying/buying has seen the stock dwindle.
Ah, life is good eh! Good greens, roasted on the CCR (sold the Behmor), ground in the Mazzer, pulled through the Strega (sold the Minore), enjoyed black or white just like the newly installed wall tiles behind the 'Witch'.

[Wiffle]

Mokka on the way!! Also keen to hear Andy's suggestions on how to roast this one; too expensive to risk screwing it up!!

[chokkidog]

Here's a link to the Ka'anapali website.

Kaanapali Coffee Farms - Real Estate Lots in Maui, Hawaii

and the shop home page:

www.mauigrowncoffee.com Home Page

If you go into the shop, check out the price for the Mokka green beans in the list on the left hand side, add shipping costs and
then reflect on the price Andy has pegged on it!! 8-O

Love your work Andy!!!

I'm also curious to the difference in roasting. One look at the photo in the above link will tell
you that these coffee trees have it a whole lot easier than the ones in Yemen, soil, rainfall and the like.

These also don't appear to be anywhere near the altitude of Yemeni coffee.

[flynnaus]

How would you roast these ones, start high and short roast or lower temp and longer roast.

Yemen beans are quite dense so usually require a reasonably long roast to ensure the bean is roasted right through. I would try the longer roast.

We would need Andy's advice on this as this is grown in Hawaii, not Yemen.

[seamad]

Sort of Yemen-esk in the cup. It has the Yemen "double big" style about it but cleaner finish in the cup and the beans that look like lentils, not coffee.

;-)

You're not kidding about looking like lentils, smallest beans I've seen so far. How would you roast these ones, start high and short roast or lower temp and longer roast.
I have a Quest 3 roaster and normally stop at +/- 2nd crack. I don't use (or have ) the CS card and normally just finish roasting according to 2c and the look of the roast.
cheers

[flynnaus]

It has the Yemen "double big" style about it but cleaner finish in the cup and the beans that look like lentils, not coffee.

Sounds like a winner.

the halo is the CS logo on the wall behind my roaster. ...and while I do have a lot more silvery tips I'm not quite ready for the afterlife halo just yet thanks

Only talking about the here and now. I knew it was the CS logo but perhaps whoever took the photo thought it might have added a divine touch: St. Andy of Geelong.

[daledugahole]

I'm stoked you've got the Vanuatu bean! My local roaster has had it as a SO for a month or so, and I can't go past it. Ive been told it works best as 80% dark roast blended with 20% a bit lighter. When I get through the 15+kg of green bean bay beans I've currently got.....I'm on board! Be keen to hear from CS'ers how they find it and if/what/how they blend it.

[Andy]

Sure we can do that for you.

$80/kg in 1 kilo lots (takes way longer to pack, costs more in time and packaging).
or
$32/kg in 2.5kg lots (amazing coffee at supermarket bean prices)



Seriously though, I think my rough rule of thumb is anything $40/kg or more will be packed into 1kg lots, anything less than that per kilo is packed into 2.5kg cotton bags.

[kevviek]

Hey, is there any chance of getting the mokka in1kg lots?