Coffee may make diabetes worse

[robertmc]

Re: Coffee may make diabetes worse

Couldnt say that I was a little penguin... but ya gotta admit the little guy had style.

No ... Im happy feet cos I love to dance... just like the little guy  and I do wear a penguin suit when I dance

[Dimal]

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;D ;D Good stuff....

Mal.

[mico]

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My daughter is type 1 and enjoys a couple of cuppas every day - I can honestly say that it has no more effect than what a small glass of milk would (low GI). High GI carb rich food, stress and inactivity on the other hand are the ones to stay away from. Of course type 1 & type 2 are very different diseases and maybe caffeine reacts with type 2 medications.

[Javaphile]

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Of course type 1 & type 2 are very different diseases and maybe caffeine reacts with type 2 medications.

This is one of the things that people/medicine/science are just now realizing, that type 1 and type 2 diabetes are actually quite different from each other. For decades it has been assumed that what is true for type 1 diabetics is also true for type 2. Current research is showing that such is not the case.

In the last week part of a major study (over 10,000 people studied for 2-7 years) looking at the effects of lowering the blood sugar of type 2 diabetics at high risk for heart attacks and strokes in the US and Canada has been brought to a screaming halt. Past research has shown a clear benefit to type 1 diabetics lowering their blood sugar to reduce their risk of heart attacks and strokes. For decades it has been assumed that such is also the case for type 2 diabetics. When the researchers started processing the data from this study they came to the alarming conclusion that by lowering the blood sugar to normal non-diabetic levels the risk of a deadly heart attack or stroke was increased, not lowered among those at high risk for strokes/heart attacks.

Researchers expected to see a lower death rate in the group with the lower (near non-diabetic normal) blood sugar levels as was the case with people with type 1 diabetes. Instead what the data showed was a 25% increase in the death rate from heart attacks and strokes among the lower blood sugar group. The lower blood sugar group had fewer strokes but when a stroke occurred it was more deadly than in the higher blood sugar group.

This is of course a simplified write-up of the study and by no means is all-inclusive of their set-up or findings and should not be used to modify a treatment program. If you want more detailed info heres a good starting point: http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2008-02/nhla-ibs020608.php

The main point Im trying to make is that many things about the cycle and treatment of type 2 diabetes are assumptions based off of research, anecdotal data, or even guesses, into type 1 diabetes. As more research is being done more and more differences are being found and many of these assumptions are being proven wrong and are falling by the wayside.


Java "Things that make you go hhmmmm..." phile

[robusto]

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The coffee story so far....

Coffee gives you headaches
Coffee stops headaches

Coffee is good for the heart
Coffee is bad for the heart

Coffee is bad for diabetics
Coffee is good for diabetics

Coffee is a diuretic
Coffee is not a diuretic

I am always sceptical of conclusions based on the affect a drug purports to have on a very small percentage of the cohort. Conclusions are more reflective of the need to avoid legal liability than absolute.

For example, the vioxx study.

You give MiracleCure drug to 100 sick people. You give a placebo to another 100. You give nothing to another 300, the control group.

Four of the sick group die. Only 2 of the placebo group die. Only 2 of the control group die.

Shock horror. MiracleCure is deemed to be unsafe, lethal. The chances of someone dying are twice as high.

---And all based on what happened in one part of the world to 4 people. Who, being sick, may have died anyway from any number of causes.

[Dennis]

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hehe robusto. You forgot to mention that coffee may contain traces of nuts. ;D

[nunu]

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Not to mention wood, metal, concrete, rocks, etc. Daily supply of vitamins and minerals in every cup.

[robusto]

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Dennis, dont let that one get around -- the latest news is that nuts have to be consumed outdoors for safety. I like my coffee indoors.

Nunu, I reckon my healthy balanced diet is due to all those additives.