Spammers - becoming members and contacting via PM.

[Andy]

Re: Spammers - becoming members and contacting via


Maybe we should all be replying to the viaga emails with the spammers email addresses.

[fatboy_1999]

Re: Spammers - becoming members and contacting via

Yeah, that could work.

I used to have a private game I christened:

Recycle Junk Mail Bingo.

This was when you got more than one bit of junk mail with a reply paid envelope supplied.
You took the junk mail from company A and put it in the reply paid envelope for company B and vice-versa. (Ensuring that you removed anything with your name or address on it).
Extra points could be earned for adding random recycling to the envelope. I once got an entire Corn Flakes package in a Citibank envelope!

Thus, you recycled, cost them money and had a bit of fun.

Surely we could embark on the electronic version if only we knew their REAL e-mail addresses!

[Koffee_Kosmo]

Re: Spammers - becoming members and contacting via

Thus, you recycled, cost them money and had a bit of fun.

Surely we could embark on the electronic version if only we knew their REAL e-mail addresses

I have in the past used a bounce junk mail program
But that just went back to an unsuspecting but innocent person

Most if not all spammers steal real emails addresses and use them as a sender carrier
(I know this as I often get spam email from myself?)

I know speleomike has a program available on his site but I don’t know how to use it
Or if it will work in this situation

KK

[flynnaus]

Re: Spammers - becoming members and contacting via

I have in the past used a bounce junk mail program
But that just went back to an unsuspecting but innocent person

Most if not all spammers steal real emails addresses and use them as a sender carrier
(I know this as I often get spam email from myself?)KK

Some PCs are zombied ie infected by some trojan and then controlled remotely http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_computer

Some trojans have a built in SMTP mailer. It will compile names and email addresses from anywhere on the infected PC and use these to spoof sender addresse,s which is the more likely reason why you would be receiving email from yourself KK

I have several email addresses: a couple of gmail ones - one I used to sign up for stuff online as a one-off. I dont care who spams that. Another I use for more serious use (such as CS membership). MY ISP one I am very careful about who I give it to and get little spam sent to it.

[Thundergod]

Re: Spammers - becoming members and contacting via

Yeah, that could work.

I used to have a private game I christened:

Recycle Junk Mail Bingo.

This was when you got more than one bit of junk mail with a reply paid envelope supplied.
You took the junk mail from company A and put it in the reply paid envelope for company B and vice-versa. (Ensuring that you removed anything with your name or address on it).
Extra points could be earned for adding random recycling to the envelope. I once got an entire Corn Flakes package in a Citibank envelope!

Thus, you recycled, cost them money and had a bit of fun.

Surely we could embark on the electronic version if only we knew their REAL e-mail addresses!

I did this just the other day.
I didnt have a company B so just sent everything back to comany A including the original envelope.
Ive previously asked to be taken off their list but that only lasts until they generate a new one.

Fun.

I like your idea though. More amusing.

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Ive also got an online email address for when I dont want to give them a real one.
Its jfor@........
Thats "j" for junk.

[Trevorbeans]

Re: Spammers - becoming members and contacting via

I had a PM from this alleged spammer guy (coffee_maker) last Sunday night, and, purely out of curiosity I later contacted him on Skype to see what he was on about.

In spite of talking to him and questioning him closely for about 15 mins, ( I used to be in a senior capacity in Fair Trading ), I made very little sense of his intentions and motivation. He would not provide direct responses to my questions.

I waved my Pullman tamper close to my webcam lens, and he said "Ah...Pullman".

I then referred him to the CS moderators.

Trevorbeans

[Ray_C]

Re: Spammers - becoming members and contacting via

Multiple email addresses is the only way to go, unless you do what a mate of mine does, he sends the remove message to them, only once, if they ignore him he then makes contact and gets the real web and email addresss from them and unleashes the biggest nastiest cocktail of his pet viruses you could imagine upon them. cruel but very affective.
I make it a point not to upset him...... mwha ha ha ha ha ha ........ Ray.

[Andy]

Re: Spammers - becoming members and contacting via


Well you can give your mate...
(without the spaces)

tommy@pole con-cnc.com
info@pole con-cnc.com
coffeetamper@hot mail.com

Im sick of this tamper pimp from China who may or may not ever you send you something that you paid for.

GO AWAY SPAMMER

[Ray_C]

Re: Spammers - becoming members and contacting via

Any others mate?

[phrostyboi]

Re: Spammers - becoming members and contacting via

Oh the joy of SPAM, I used to be the spam guy from my old workplace, what fun it was a never ending battle

Have you got a captch system in place on this forum at all? If not you might want to see if you can do it

Ive administered forums like this before and when an address starts sending junk I just start banning IP addressess, if I see more than 1 SPAM from an IP range I block the whole range

As a general rule you should find and block any IP that comes from russia and china, though with this forum becoming recognised outside of AUS thats probably not a feasible idea

how quickly do these spam accounts start sending PM messages after they sign up? Maybe you could set up something so that if an accoutn sends a PM within a certain amount of time after signing up, or puts posts with http or email links in them as the first posts they make, they are suspended? This has worked really well for me previously

[Dimal]

Re: Spammers - becoming members and contacting via

Gday phrosti

Im pretty sure that Andy is well aware of all these measures and employs those of them that have the best chance of working. As you say though, as CS becomes more international with its membership one has to consider very carefully how the tools available are used.....

Cheers,
Mal.

[Dennis]

Re: Spammers - becoming members and contacting via

Gday phrosti

Im pretty sure that Andy is well aware of all these measures and employs those of them that have the best chance of working. As you say though, as CS becomes more international with its membership one has to consider very carefully how the tools available are used.....

Cheers,
Mal.

Isnt IT Andys 1st full-time job and CS his 2nd - or is it the other way around? ...no need to answer that! ;D

[Dimal]

Re: Spammers - becoming members and contacting via

Isnt IT Andys 1st full-time job and CS his 2nd - or is it the other way around? ...no need to answer that!  ;D

Yes!

Mal.

[Ray_C]

Re: Spammers - becoming members and contacting via

so it the game afoot? has the spammer dropped off the face of the earth? did the dreaded pets get him? I wonder................ mwha ha ha ha haaaaa. And then there was none.

[Andy]

Re: Spammers - Ooops, I blocked IP and locked out


Over the last week we have been getting hit by a whole lot of SQL injection attacks (and others), most were from China and I started to block the IP ranges but it appears that at least one was from an Optusnet customer in Thomastown (infected PC I guess).

C:/\/>tracert 211.28.216.152
Tracing route to c211-28-216-152.thoms1.vic.optusnet.com.au [211.28.216.152]

The gotcha was that when I blocked the range we also blocked some CSrs who got a message that they were "Banned from the forum".

Sorry to any CSr who got that message, I have removed the blocks and "transmission should be back to normal"

Sheeze spammers are both a time sponge and a waste of space.
**sigh**

Andy.