Hi Okitoki
Lot's of deeply roasted beans can give great cocoa flavours (brazil, ethiopians) but can end up a bit dry (like a spoonful of cocoa powder!). Combining this with a PNG or Indo bean can add some nice caramel sweetness & syrupy mouthfeel - that's what I've found :-)
So mocha java for me if I'm after chocolate!
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Digging up an old thread here, but I am looking at producing the same nice chocolatey blend espresso and was wondering if it is possible to get this from a single bean, or do I have to blend to get the taste I am after... I usually like a full body, choc nutty flavour milk based latte...
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Hi Malliemcg,Originally posted by malliemcg View PostI've come across/developed the following blend which the wife and I quite like:
75% Peru Ceja de Selva Estate
25% Tanzanian Faircracked Pulper
I roast using an iCoffee in 150gm batches - and I did the following:
2x 150g CS8/9 roasts (15-17 min) Peru
1x 200g CS 9 roast (25-32 min) Peru
1x 150g CS 9+ roast (20-22 min) Tanzanian
This gave me a really nice (milk based) coffee. The wife loved it (50mL double) in 250mL milk, and I really enjoy it (60mL double with 50mL-150mL milk). It showed well at the Golden bean with a silver placing. I've played about a little bit using Elephant Hills (instead of Peru) and Ugandan Kisoro (instead of the Tanzanian) and I find the results that just worked best/nicest for us was the above.
Just need to name the beast - will have to ask my little off sider (3 yr old daughter who helps measure out and taste the beans) what her thoughts are.
I never tried playing with variation in roasts of the same beans and blending that way. I will need to experiment more with my blends. Well done on the silver placing!
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I've come across/developed the following blend which the wife and I quite like:
75% Peru Ceja de Selva Estate
25% Tanzanian Faircracked Pulper
I roast using an iCoffee in 150gm batches - and I did the following:
2x 150g CS8/9 roasts (15-17 min) Peru
1x 200g CS 9 roast (25-32 min) Peru
1x 150g CS 9+ roast (20-22 min) Tanzanian
This gave me a really nice (milk based) coffee. The wife loved it (50mL double) in 250mL milk, and I really enjoy it (60mL double with 50mL-150mL milk). It showed well at the Golden bean with a silver placing. I've played about a little bit using Elephant Hills (instead of Peru) and Ugandan Kisoro (instead of the Tanzanian) and I find the results that just worked best/nicest for us was the above.
Just need to name the beast - will have to ask my little off sider (3 yr old daughter who helps measure out and taste the beans) what her thoughts are.
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Hi Jenny, the Tanzanian and several other African beans I have tried tend to have high acidity with citrus and floral notes, some have berry flavours, roasting them really dark can tone the acidity and bring out more chocolate/cocoa, every growing region has its own characteristics, thats the beauty of home roasting, discovering all of the different flavour profiles and combining them together to enhance the flavours in the cup--dont ya just love itOriginally posted by 7A757E7E696471697C7F62100 link=1321445123/20#20 date=1337018640Does anyone know why the Tanzanian is more acidic? What is the key factor that changes it compared to other beans?
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Does anyone know why the Tanzanian is more acidic? What is the key factor that changes it compared to other beans?
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I agree that the Tanzanian is very bright and acidic on its own. Its almost like dark unsweetened cocoa in character. Paired 50/50 with Sulawesi blue however and its a stunning mocha. Just the right acidity, heavy body and spiced sweet aftertaste. Brilliant in milk. :P But, you have to wait 10 days post roast to get the magic. :-/
Both roasted 2-3mins past RFC.
From my sampling this morning I get a citrus zest upfront, florals in the mid palate, coconut resting on a rich chocolate base. Im sure someone with better roasting skills could make more of it.
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Hi greenman, I did the above blend and it really is a much more even blend than my original. with the addition of a chimney Ive managed to get 2nd crack at around 8 to 9 minutes and more oil evident on the beans. Seems to give me a smoother and full bodied espresso. I am getting hints of hazelnut and slight floral tones.Originally posted by 60727C6A76130 link=1321445123/16#16 date=1331127494I might experiment with equal portions of the 3 and maintaining 40% Columbian and see what that does.
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thanks for the tips everyone, I have just roasted the Special K for the first time so might try it straight and then thinking of blending it with some Ethiopian Gambi
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Originally posted by 362334343F3C303F510 link=1321445123/15#15 date=133111870417% Indian
16% Panama
17% Sumatran
50% Peru
they roasted really well together producing a lovely even blend
Interesting. My current blend is
10% Ethiopian
40% Columbian
20% India
30% Kenya
Roasted to 2nd crack and dumped after 15 seconds after the start of 2nd crack (100gms 12.15 minutes). After 3 days it is a full bodied smooth blend and starting to have the cocoa that I like. Not a whole lot of oil though. I might experiment with equal portions of the 3 and maintaining 40% Columbian and see what that does.
Going to try roasting my original blend but increase the beans to 120gms thereby reducing the roasting time to around 10 to 11 minutes (I think) and see what that does to the taste and then do another roast using the equal portions blend maintaining 40% Coumbian. Im thinking the reduced roasting time might produce an oilier roast? Cant wait for the weekend to experiment.
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[QUOTE%=5547495F43260 link=1321445123/14#14 date=1331112088]Hi Greenman, what kind of percentages are you using the Indian in your blend? 20 to 30% or more? [/QUOTE]
17% Indian
16% Panama
17% Sumatran
50% Peru
they roasted really well together producing a lovely even blend
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Hi Greenman, what kind of percentages are you using the Indian in your blend? 20 to 30% or more?Originally posted by 30253232393A3639570 link=1321445123/12#12 date=1331097190the subtle spices are coming from the Sumatran with the Indian adding heaps of body, still improving as each day passes
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Cool, thanks Ill keep this in mind for sure!
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the subtle spices are coming from the Sumatran with the Indian adding heaps of body, still improving as each day passesOriginally posted by 1C3325251B560 link=1321445123/11#11 date=1331038286Greenman, is it the Sumatran/Indian that gives the spice in your enticing blend?
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Hey fellow blenders!
Been meaning to join in for a few years now, better late than never!
Blergen, that formulation sounds superb, always after the choc notes myself..might have to buy some myself on bean bay & try it out. On the list it goes!
Been working on a spicy blend of late, getting there with some Eth. Limu, blended with Colombian & a Kenyan. Looking at buying some Aceh Bitang Gr. 1.
Anyone have any ideas on beans with spice nuances? Any tips much appreciated.
Greenman, is it the Sumatran/Indian that gives the spice in your enticing blend?
Thanks guys
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