Mocha Java variations?

[eaglemick]

Hi Mick
You can just play around with the mix - I've had lovely coffee from both. The 60/40 tends to be a bit more cocoa-like - the 40/60 a bit more smooth & caramely IMHO - just depends what you like and what you've got in stock!
Normally rested 7 days, gets really good 10-14. Taken to just on 2C at around 17mins.

You'll love it when you get it right!
Matt

The 60/40 didn't do it for me. Roasted to CS9 but wasn't very smooth, tasted too bitter despite varying the brew temp to compensate. I only got to 9 days post roast before I ran out though but I've got some 40/60 resting now to try out in about a week!

[DesigningByCoffee]

Hi all
I've been tweaking my Mocha Java based blends by adding some central/indian at the tail end, rather than placing the M/J over some base beans which seems to be the more standard approach. I just prefer the extra potency of the Ethiopians. And stumbled across a real winner!

Opened this morning after 10 days rest - amazingly rich doppio & awesome through soy as a FW.
Breakdown as follows…
• 150g Eth Ghimbi
• 100g Sulawesi Blue
• 50g El Sal Aida
• 50g MMG
Around 18min ramping roast - dropped at 225deg just on 2C.

I've been playing with a 125/100/75/50 blend of these origins, which has been beautifully smooth & sweet, yet more subtle - but this one really jumped out and poked me in the eye!

[DesigningByCoffee]

Hi Mick
You can just play around with the mix - I've had lovely coffee from both. The 60/40 tends to be a bit more cocoa-like - the 40/60 a bit more smooth & caramely IMHO - just depends what you like and what you've got in stock!
Normally rested 7 days, gets really good 10-14. Taken to just on 2C at around 17mins.

You'll love it when you get it right!
Matt

[eaglemick]

With the Mocha Java one of my all-time favourite blends, I've just cracked into a bag of the latest current beanbay variation with a 60/40 Java Banyuwangi with Ethiopia Oromia Coop Limu. Pre-roast blend, ramping climb to 1C in 13-14mins, dropped at 18mins just into 2C. Taken to 226 deg.

Hey Matt,

I read another post that said mocha/java was 60% African 40% Indo. Is that what you do?
How long did you rest the beans before using?

Just roasted the Ethopian with some Sumatra Lake Toba on the weekend so waiting patiently for a few days before trying

Mick

[DesigningByCoffee]

Kick starting again an oldie but a goody…
With the Mocha Java one of my all-time favourite blends, I've just cracked into a bag of the latest current beanbay variation with a 60/40 Java Banyuwangi with Ethiopia Oromia Coop Limu. Pre-roast blend, ramping climb to 1C in 13-14mins, dropped at 18mins just into 2C. Taken to 226 deg.
One of the best doppios I've had in a long time! Thick, rich, sweet & syrupy, strong chocolate overtone with an undertone of something else - maybe leather or timber shavings?
This should also rock through milk - I'm expecting big choc :-)
Might try this again soon with some Mexican added to the blend to add some citrus acidity through the syrup. But well worth a try if you have these beans on hand.

Happy roasting!
Matt

Update: Just sampled in Piccolo and Latte, through Vitasoy Original - big, big, BIG chocolate! Old gold… mmmmmm

[greenman]

Currently resting a test batch of 50/50 of Yemen Mocha Haimi and Indo sulawesi toraja... no idea how this will taste in a few days but hopefully good.

I think you will be pleasantly surprised Roz--enjoy!!

[Roz]

Currently resting a test batch of 50/50 of Yemen Mocha Haimi and Indo sulawesi toraja... no idea how this will taste in a few days but hopefully good.

[NakiChap]

I`m drinking a blend of Ethiopian sidamo haile selassie / Sulawesi blue 60 / 40

Roasted together to late CS9 in the corretto really nice blend.

[nunu]

Re: Mocha Java variations?

You could probably try Ethiopian Ghimbi/lighter roasted Sulawesi.

[Bullitt]

Re: Mocha Java variations?

Other blends worth a try might be

African - Ethiopian Limu or Malawi Pamwamba or Ugandan Bugisu?

Indonesian - Sulawesi Toraja, maybe Columbian or MTC Boomerang.

I have had good success with Columbian/Limu blend, which I and others liked a lot,
however cant compare it directly with a proper Mocha/Java as Ive never had any.

Regards
Bullitt

[NewToEspresso]

My attempts to get the Ethiopian Harrar and Sumatran Mandehling as well as the decaf mocha java keeps getting thwarted by stocks running out before I can place the order...

What other beans can you use to get close to the Mocha java blend? Kenya AA/ Timor Leste?