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    No Creme - Kitchen Aid Espresso

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    At work we have a Kitchen Aid Artisan Espresso machine which I am led to believe is a decent machine at around $1100 - $1200. We have always had the paper sachet Illey coffee which makes ok coffee and is easy to clean up but I just don’t think it makes as good coffee as freshly ground or even pre ground coffee from a packet. The problem I have is that for some reason whenever I use pre ground coffee from a pack the water rushes through the coffee far too easily and as a result there is no crème. I made sure the coffee I bought was supposedly suitable for espresso machines but even when I tamp it down really hard it doesn’t help, the water still runs through really quickly.

    We have a coffee grinder here but it doesn’t seem to be working very well and I can only get a really coarse grind that is nowhere near suitable for an espresso machine, I wouldn’t even use it in a plunger.

    Any ideas? Am I doing something wrong, or is the machine not working properly?

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    Re: No Creme - Kitchen Aid Espresso

    Quote Originally Posted by 4E4B5C4F75454D43465C532A0 link=1237782001/0#0 date=1237782001
    The problem I have is that for some reason whenever I use pre ground coffee from a pack the water rushes through the coffee far too easily and as a result there is no crème
    Theres your problem right there. Pre-ground coffee from the supermarket will be stale and youll never be able to get a decent espresso from it.
    As I see it youve got a couple of options. Keep using pods, or fix the grinder so that it grinds finely enough and use freshly roasted beans with it or buy a new grinder (at the minimum one of the Sunbeam Cafe Series burr grinders) and use that with fresh whole beans.
    Otherwise, youll have to resign yourself to sub-par, crema-less coffee. :(

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    Re: No Creme - Kitchen Aid Espresso

    Dave,

    Is the coffee grinder a blade grinder, or burr grinder? You can tell quite easily by looking inside. if theres two spinning blades, its not a burr grinder. This type of grinder is not suitable for espresso. You need a conical burr grinder.

    As for the coffee, jakes is 100% absolutely correct. Anything from the supermarket will be stale and will pour fast, lack crema and taste quite disgusting compared to freshly roasted and ground coffee. The difference is like night and day.

    As for the Illy pods, I tasted one a few weeks ago. I only took one sip. Had I tasted it twelve months ago, I would have thought it to be ok, but I now know better.

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    Re: No Creme - Kitchen Aid Espresso

    It is a burr grinder, its also Kitchen Aid and look and feels like it is quite high quality. For some reason though I cant get anything but a coarse grind out of it no matter what setting I use.

    Looks like I am just going to have to make do with the Illy pods for the time being. Its not the worst coffee in the world but it is far far from the best...

    Cheers!

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    Re: No Creme - Kitchen Aid Espresso

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    Quote Originally Posted by 303522310B3B333D38222D540 link=1237782001/3#3 date=1237785121
    It is a burr grinder, its also Kitchen Aid and look and feels like it is quite high quality. For some reason though I cant get anything but a coarse grind out of it no matter what setting I use.
    Gday Dave,

    While the KA Espresso Machine is a capable unit (albeit grossly overpriced), their grinder isnt as good and has a reputation for unreliability. As has been suggested above, a new grinder (e.g. a SB EM0480) will be up to the job and can be had for around $180. Maybe suggest that your colleagues all chip in as the end result will be the potential for excellent coffee, with the usual provisos of course... ;)

    Mal.



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