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    Esmeralda Auction

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    For anyone that wants to take a look, the Esmeralda auction is happening now. Im going to tip that lot #1 will fetch the highest price; well see tomorrow morning!

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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    http://auction.stoneworks.com/observer_list_.html?session=14751000

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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    OK, were in the bonus rounds ... bidder 656 has been really trying to stake a claim on lot 1, but seems to have backed off at $40/lb ...

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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    $45.50 with 1 min 45 seconds to go

    edit: over $60 a pound now....just keeps on going

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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    its pretty cool watching this *.... 60.50 now

    cheapest lot .. ES6-03 $12.50 currently

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    Looks like 656 and 58 have brokered a peace deal, with each of them settling on one batch of ES1 ... but now 891 is trying to buy 58s bag! $69.50 ...

    Meanwhile, some people have twigged and lots 3 and 4 are edging up a few bucks ...

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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    Just jumped to over $70 USD/lb. :D

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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    Lot 3 is now edging out the rest, other than lot 1. Surprised lot 4 isnt doing better, but it might pick up ...

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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    You think itll tip over 90 usd?

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    Maybe; not sure ...

    ... lot 4 is now gaining a few bucks ... are bidders reading my posts? ;P

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    By my reckoning, bidder 765 is currently sitting on something like $90k (USD) in various lots ...

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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    Quote Originally Posted by 6E4C4A51565C4A390 link=1242742245/8#8 date=1242744502
    You think itll tip over 90 usd?
    Bidder 656 takes it over 90 ... so much for "seeming to back off at $40"

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    over $100 ... *:o *nice


    >>> will this countdown clock ever get to zero .. ;D

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    Interesting that the market clearly values lot 3 and 4 as the best; accords with what we thought of the samples at the cupping at BBB.

    Yes, Id quite like the auction to end.

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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    Do you know how new region1 is as a producing area?

    There are 7 distinct batches. Every lot within a given batch is EXACTLY the same. The chart below shows alternating rows shaded to visually group the lots within each batch. For example batch ES4 contains lots ES4-01 through ES4-08 theoretically allowing up to 8 different bidders to acquire coffee from Batch 4.
    http://auction.stoneworks.com/es2009/lots.html

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    Reserva de la Seņora *Cupping Notes: *A balanced and sweet cup, notes of jasmine, mandarin oranges, chocolate, blackberry jam and rose tea. This is one of our newest producing areas, in the Caņas Verdes region, adjacent to the Baru Volcano National Park. This is our highest grown Esmeralda Special in production.



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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    Lots 3, 4 and 5 (the "Mario" lots) are the "traditional" lots.

    I wonder how the Reserva de la Senora lots will change in flavour over the next few years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 68716765040 link=1242742245/15#15 date=1242748175
    I wonder how the Reserva de la Senora lots will change in flavour over the next few years?
    Id definitely be in to try it for sure ;)

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    $117.50 for batch 1... bargain? 8-)

    And I like seeing a lot of winning bidders names there that I know I can get coffee from too... hmm... hmm.. yummm... :)

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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    Ive never seen this before - someone want to give me the run down on how this works - and whether its likely Id actually end up tasting some of this here in Aus?
    Some of those descriptions left my tongue hanging!

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    I would have expected to see a certain few Aussie names there. Did they not bid, or are they buying in a group with other roasters?


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    Final results sheet http://auction.stoneworks.com/es2009/final_results.html raised $440,000 USD

    :( No Aussie names I recognise. Anyone want to look at the customs requirements and bringing in a small lot for us home roasters from one of the winners?

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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    Quote Originally Posted by 4047434C444E5B4B4C45220 link=1242742245/20#20 date=1242775275
    Anyone want to look at the customs requirements and bringing in a small lot for us home roasters from one of the winners?

    This is one bean Im not game to roast. It deserves more respect than my half baked corretto.

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    Worth the risk I reckon. I have a baggy of COE beans here to practice on ::) So far only one total dud roast out of 100 or so so I think its worth the risk :)

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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    Im not talking about ruining it, but Esmeralda is something special, I want to know that its been roasted to its best, which for me, I cant (yet) guarantee.

    I know from conversations that BBB actually found it took a bit to find the optimum roast profile. Being such an incredibly complex cup, I guess its harder to bring out the best as compared with a fairly one dimensional SO.

    Having said all that, Im willing to (sacrificially) taste test your Esmeralda roasts for you and give feedback ;D

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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    Quote Originally Posted by 2126222D252F3A2A2D24430 link=1242742245/20#20 date=1242775275
    Final results sheet http://auction.stoneworks.com/es2009/final_results.html *raised $440,000 USD

    :( No Aussie names I recognise. Anyone want to look at the customs requirements and bringing in a small lot for us home roasters from one of the winners?

    [edit: calculations are for Lot 1: ES1-01 Reserva de la Seņora, 6 bags at $117.50 per oz, 300oz : total price of $35,250]

    6 bags at 22.67 kg per bag .. 136.02 kg

    $35,250 / 136.02 = *us$259.15 per KG

    approx: *AU $336 per KG ... rough estimate of 20grms per double shot (once roasted >> weight drops to 14-16 grms ?) .. about $6.72 per double as a RAW cost, not including roasting* :D *;D *:D

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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    ^^^ to be perfectly honest, Id pay that.
    And more.

    Possibly quite a bit more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7C6842792F1D0 link=1242742245/24#24 date=1242781169

    6 bags at 22.67 kg per bag .. 136.02 kg

    $35,250 / 136.02 = *us$259.15 per KG

    approx: *AU $336 per KG ... rough estimate of 20grms per double shot (once roasted >> weight drops to 14-16 grms ?) .. about $6.72 per double as a RAW cost, not including roasting* :D *;D *:D
    Actually, theres not just 6 bags ;) The average price was US$31.21/lb, which is about AUD$90/kg if my maths brain is working.

    And good luck getting any for home roasting ;D

    But seriously, why would you want to? Im with ACog on this one ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 33270D3660520 link=1242742245/24#24 date=1242781169
    per KG ... rough estimate of 20grms per double shot (once roasted >> weight drops to 14-16 grms ?) .. about $6.72 per double as a RAW cost, not including roasting
    Heathen ;) Esme is average as an espresso IMO, Syphon, Pour Over Drip or Clover is the only way to fly :)

    I had my last bag as Syphon only but I tried one from my first bag as a straight espresso and would prefer somthing else. It is very floral and citrus in tastes and doesnt like being squashed and forced maybe ::)

    BTW BBB were $25/bag with the last lot.

    ACog if you dont mind the travel and I have some you are welcome to a cup, you will have to slum it with home roast when you get here this trip Esme is all gone 8-) :)

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    Difficult as it might be to roast well I would like to have a go at a couple of kg just for the experience and to be able to have some throughout the year rather than just available for a month or so. Apart from that I would still be up for a couple of roasted if some were to arrive in Oz this season in lieu of green. :)

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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    I dont think these coffees are intended for espresso, not at that price.

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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    What pray tell would they be intended for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7945584349485F4A42492D0 link=1242742245/30#30 date=1242797652
    What pray tell would they be intended for?
    Pourover, clover, brewed methods. :-* Highlight all the delicate nuances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 44507A4117250 link=1242742245/24#24 date=1242781169


    [edit: *calculations are for Lot 1: *ES1-01 Reserva de la Seņora, 6 bags at $117.50 per oz, 300oz : total price of $35,250]
    Gotchya ;)

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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    Quote Originally Posted by 5842544141350 link=1242742245/31#31 date=1242798240
    Quote Originally Posted by 7945584349485F4A42492D0 link=1242742245/30#30 date=1242797652
    What pray tell would they be intended for?
    Pourover, clover, brewed methods. *:-* Highlight all the delicate nuances.
    Bingo. Id hate to not nail an extraction of this and pour a $10 espresso down the drain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0B292F3433392F5C0 link=1242742245/33#33 date=1242802932
    Bingo. Id hate to not nail an extraction of this and pour a $10 espresso down the drain. *

    And for me, having recently gone from a sunbeam grinder to a Mazzer, knowing my luck, Id adjust in the wrong direction. :o

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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    Quote Originally Posted by 383A363E3E30372A590 link=1242742245/34#34 date=1242812955
    Quote Originally Posted by 0B292F3433392F5C0 link=1242742245/33#33 date=1242802932
    Bingo. Id hate to not nail an extraction of this and pour a $10 espresso down the drain. *

    And for me, having recently gone from a sunbeam grinder to a Mazzer, knowing my luck, Id adjust in the wrong direction. :o

    As Maxwell Smart would say "ah, *its the old counter-anti-clockwise .. go to the higher number to get a smaller particle size problemo"

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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    Some insight from Tim Wendelboes blog:

    "The fact is we need to wake up and smell the coffee. If we want higher quality coffees in the future, I think we need to prepare ourselves and our customers for prices that are much higher than what we are seeing today. Remember, in 2005 the Esmeralda also sold at a record breaking USD 20 per pound at the best of Panama auction. Today the same coffee is 117.50 USD."



    Coffee in general is dead cheap (dabatably unfair). Paying huge amounts for high end specialty coffee isnt absurd. Its not the common commodity coffee. Theyre not even in the same league. Esmeralda is still one of my coffees of the year so far. And no, not espresso, but filtered. Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70727E7676787F62110 link=1242742245/34#34 date=1242812955
    And for me, having recently gone from a sunbeam grinder to a Mazzer, knowing my luck, Id adjust in the wrong direction. :o
    Ive never really thought about it but the Mazzer (use them at work) does turn in the opposite direction to my rocky. :)

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    Re: Esmeralda Auction

    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    Quote Originally Posted by 1537312A2D2731420 link=1242742245/33#33 date=1242802932
    Quote Originally Posted by 5842544141350 link=1242742245/31#31 date=1242798240
    Quote Originally Posted by 7945584349485F4A42492D0 link=1242742245/30#30 date=1242797652
    What pray tell would they be intended for?
    Pourover, clover, brewed methods. *:-* Highlight all the delicate nuances.
    Bingo. Id hate to not nail an extraction of this and pour a $10 espresso down the drain.
    Thanks.



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