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    How can i avoid early blonding with fresh coffee?

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Hey guys,

    I love fresh coffee, but being able to give the customer day in day out, a consistently good coffee is a challenge. I get coffee delivered fresh twice a week and while the ristrettos are tasting divine the espresso blondes and loses body very quickly (around the 17ml mark).
    I am using a La San Marco 85-E series paired with a Mazzer Major.
    The baskets are only 53mm (18g doubles) in diameter and thus requires me to down dose and grind finer. Something i am not usually used to.
    I have tried adjusting grinds and tamp pressures, but with no real consistent change.

    So, if anyone has any tips on how i could approach this problem, or if you have similar troubles I would love to hear from you.

    Cheers,

    Ben

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    Re: How can i avoid early blonding with fresh coffee?

    Quote Originally Posted by 4F63706C637171020 link=1248170941/0#0 date=1248170941
    I get coffee delivered fresh twice a week and while the ristrettos are tasting divine the espresso blondes and loses body very quickly (around the 17ml mark).

    Ok... That implies good beans... But;

    1: Do you know the roast date ?
    2: Did this just start to happen ?

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    Re: How can i avoid early blonding with fresh coffee?

    Usually, we get the beans about 3-4 days after roasting. It has been happening since i have been using this setup and coffee.

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    Re: How can i avoid early blonding with fresh coffee?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0E22312D223030430 link=1248170941/2#2 date=1248171885
    Usually, we get the beans about 3-4 days after roasting. It has been happening since i have been using this setup and coffee.

    So when did you change the set up ?

    What was involved..

    1: You state USUALLY.... 3-4 post roast.. How do you know ?????

    2: You state this set up and coffee ? Does this mean you changed coffe ????

    Does this errrrr mean beans / bean supplier as well ?

    As your well aware there are many things at play and myself and others can not really comment or provide advice when we only have a little information and even that has assumptions involved.

    As GW would say; we need Intelligence and that can only be derived from good information..

    Sorry to sound a pain... But just like a home system or even a low end commercial machine...

    True blonding (watery) is usually only down to a few things and beans would be one of the biggest causes... Next to Grind and Tamp...

    There is a long topic on blonding and some interesting reading to be had for all.

    http://www.home-barista.com/espresso-guide-skills.html Thanks Mal

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1242338990/6#6 And again

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1222855075/6#6




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    Re: How can i avoid early blonding with fresh coffee?

    you prob have already but..lock in your handle and before pulling a shot, check out the shower indent. you could be mashing your puck which could lead to channelling...

    aaron

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    Re: How can i avoid early blonding with fresh coffee?

    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    Thanks AM,
    I am new to this cafe and so the setup is new to me. The roast date is on each bag.
    Cheers for the links, ill check them out :)

    Aaron, ill check about that mashing - good tip.



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