Oh the horror.....
I feel your pain Steve.
Yesterday my bother in law came over to baby sit for 1/2 hr whilst my wife went shopping. *During that time he decided to use my Silvia...without permission, I was not impressed when I came home and noticed itd been used...there was coffee all over the shower screen, fingerprints all over it, the group handle and filter werent cleaned properly, the grinder was still switched on and my knock box had slurry in it...it looked like something my cat does every now and then.
My wife knew hed used it too and questioned him on it, especially if hed used milk...she tried to explain the boiler priming thing, but he only had a shot without any milk, so thats a relief. *But hey its ok...he has a Saeco super automatic, so he knows all about coffee making. *>:(
I felt violated..I had to clean, backflush, wash my knockbox and pull myself a shot just to make sure my baby was still all ok.
Anyone else had their espresso machine violated without their permission?
Oh the horror.....
I feel your pain Steve.
Sacrilege! Burning at the stake is too good. I recommend hang, draw and quartering. ;) ;D
Failing this, next time hide your group handles, make a cup of coffee for him or show him how to use it. He might even become a Coffee Snob
Originally Posted by 307774373C2C440 link=1248393052/0#0 date=1248393052
I wonder if he let it warm up for 30 + minutes first
But I agree its just not cricket
Originally Posted by 050F1A0D0D021610630 link=1248393052/2#2 date=1248394718
Na... Not on at all...
Why.. see below.
Originally Posted by 175053101B0B630 link=1248393052/0#0 date=1248393052
SteveH, get him to show you how much better the Auto is and maybe you will be converted... ;) :D ;D >:( :( 8-) [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]
Not a chance. I doubt he wouldve warmed up the cups either.Originally Posted by 40646D6D6E6E5440647866640B0 link=1248393052/3#3 date=1248396761
I had to fix that up for him...he cant read manuals and is ...well the words house brick, plank...sandwhiches and picnics come to mind. Recently he was going to take the Saeco in for a service as it was only producing 15ml cold weak coffees. All it needed was the settings tweeked...hed turned the machine off (after leaving it on for months) and that caused the settings to be reset to minimums. ::)Originally Posted by 6B444D4F58674B444B4D4F474F445E2A0 link=1248393052/4#4 date=1248398765
No one touches the Expobar at home except to draw some water for tea and at the moment its switched off while Im at work because I hadnt changed the programming on the timer and it scared my wife when it came on one afternoon recently. ;D
At work I recently removed my grinder from next to the EM6910 in the kitchen because I found remnants of preground in the hopper. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Has flogging been removed from the punishment for Unlawful use of a Coffee Extracting Device. If so it would probably be to good for him. [smiley=evil.gif]
Ones Coffee Machine is sacred and should only be used by those who are trained and TRUSTED, of which there a none in my house except for SHE who must be obeyed [smiley=lipsrsealed.gif]
A horrible, horrible experience, Steve. I hope youve recovered from the violation. The non-snob population simply does not understand how we suffer for our passion. :(
Is there a punishment suitable for a crime like this? I cant think of one.
>:( >:( ;)
A relative of mine once said hed make his own coffee at my place, he knew how to do it, etc. I tried to put him off, but he was fairly insistent. So, with me closely monitoring him, he proceeded to make a complete hash of it, then gave up, at which point I stepped back in (shaking my head) and made it properly, telling him a few things hed done wrong. He was suitably chastened and hasnt tried again. (Funny, I dont get so precious about anything else like that. Except dont ever try and touch the Takamine without permission. ::))
Drinking instant.Originally Posted by 013423210C11460 link=1248393052/9#9 date=1248403620
Ouch. Kinda reminds me of when I went to make a coffee at work and some silly person before me had brewed a shot with instant coffee in the group handle :o. It wasnt easy to clean either *>:(Originally Posted by 1D213C272D2C3B2E262D490 link=1248393052/7#7 date=1248402252
I saw a lot of that when I first got here.Originally Posted by 6064626E6D6D686F7230010 link=1248393052/11#11 date=1248411764
It doesnt happen any more.
I am worried I may have same problem sooner or later.
Now my wife and I share our unit with another couple students to save some money since I am studying.
The good thing now is these couple did not drink coffee so they did not use my EM6910, however, they dirty our other kitchen appliances a lot.
Anyway, they will move out soon after we keep asking them to keep kitchen and other public place clean.
Now the prob coming problem is our another couple friends are looking for share our place after they finish they lease before they move oversea.
They drinks coffee and had a breville (<100.-) coffee machine (I wont call it espresso machine tho).
They did make some coffee for us when we visited their place.
Now I am worried how to show them how to use a basic real espresso machine is my concern, since they thought they know how to make a espresso.
And as a Taiwanese (Chinese), our culture make us feel its a bit rude to correct others when they thought they know how to do.
( I hope my English writing above can be understood since its a complex sentence.....)
I understand perfectly ColinOriginally Posted by 303C3F3A3D24363D530 link=1248393052/13#13 date=1248413019
As I read, you actually sound like my mother :o
She speaks a kind of broken Euro English with a Greek accent :-/
Ha Thanks for understanding KK,
Although my poor English is not my point of post tho.
And I dont know Mandarin (chinese) sentence structure can be similar to European (Greek)?
I always found I use chinese way to build up my English and its difficult to be understood by English speaker.. (too many point in one sentence)...
Steve I think the correct punishment should be, take him to the local shopping centre, the bigger, the better and make him clean every espresso machine in the place.
This should teach him to leave your machine alone next time.
Hi Colin - this is a very tough situation. *I think the best thing to do is to be upfront with them and ask them not to use your espresso machine right from the start. *Ive lived in many student share houses over the years - at least one of which deteriorated to communication only though yellow sticky postit notes left on dirty kitchen appliances/cutlery/toilets/piles of clothing etc. *Ive also seen unspeakable things done to knives, stoves, pans etc.. *I once found my ceramic mixing bowl left in the bathroom cupboard...I didnt ask...but threw out the bowl regardless... * Dont take the chance! *If all else fails you could warn them of the machines undiagnosed and erratic tendency to propel hot coffee grounds over unsuspecting users... Good luck with it :)Originally Posted by 474B484D4A53414A240 link=1248393052/13#13 date=1248413019
Hence why I dont allow anyone to play with the Elektra - snob or no snob. ;)Originally Posted by 437661634E53040 link=1248393052/9#9 date=1248403620
I am sorry, I must not have the snobby-precious gene,
If my brother and Law made a complete hash of making coffee using MY! bezzera it probably wouldnt bother me too much..... *On the condition he showed and active interest and was prepared to take the time to learn how to do it properly and learn how clean the machine the next time. (thats a big condition).
I figure if give a man a fish you feed him for a day, if you teach a man to fish well... maybe he may just end up getting a decent machine, roaster and grinder so when you go to his house you wont have to drink superautomatico supermarket bean rubbish.
Now.. if he messed with the grinder settings.... a thousand papers cuts would not be justice.
;D ;D ;D
My coffee corner is my kingdom and the only intrustion allowed is if family members turn Maria on as a hint that they would like a coffee soon!!
Touching another mans caffeine extracting equipment is sacrilege and no punishment would be too extreme!!! >:( >:( >:(
I have a few shiny new toys arriving for home use in the next week or so and the only person other that would be allowed to do that is Chris - but he needs to come up from Melbourne to do so. ;)Originally Posted by 3F2A3D3D36353936580 link=1248393052/20#20 date=1248420487
Do you think Id be just a tad too extreme if were to employ a security guard 24/7? ;D
Er, yes, I gathered that, Den. :-[ I only offered to make my own purely out of consideration to you, being as tied up as you were, you know. Never hurts a snob to ask. :DOriginally Posted by 04252E2E2933400 link=1248393052/18#18 date=1248419157
I like the thousand paper cuts suggestion, Dazza (as a start!).
Hmm...sounds interesting. Would said shiny toys be displayed in Cuppacoffee at some stage*? Not something VBMish perhaps, or dare I suggest an item not too dissimilar to a GS/3.Originally Posted by 0F2E252522384B0 link=1248393052/21#21 date=1248421497
* OK, OK - you did say for home use[/edit]
Though my ESP suggests that Dudley may soon have a friend (or colleague)
Uhm, its for home use but might bring it in to the shop for a special occasion. Ive also promised Sue that she will learn how to use said toys (pray for me).Originally Posted by 575D485F5F504442310 link=1248393052/23#23 date=1248423909
Nice, but no.Originally Posted by 575D485F5F504442310 link=1248393052/23#23 date=1248423909
Actually, very dissimilar.Originally Posted by 575D485F5F504442310 link=1248393052/23#23 date=1248423909
giggled like a schoolgirl - Dudley has a new friend that arrived yesterday - the Tostatutto! I think Dudley has been sniggering ever since it arrived.Originally Posted by 575D485F5F504442310 link=1248393052/23#23 date=1248423909
OK, well I was on the radar with Dudleys new friend but my chronometer was a bit slow.
So Im guessing some new kit. I did spy with my little eye something starting with v on your laptop screen last Thursday. Hmmmm...Im guessing it must be special if it needs to be Chrisened (like that? :). Sue is very privileged.
Keep us posted.
No...Originally Posted by 206764272C3C540 link=1248393052/0#0 date=1248393052
But then, there has been the occasional veiled threat whilst pointing to a small collection of the wrong end of a pineapple. Seems to have had the desired outcome ;D ;D
Originally Posted by 6A47434F422E0 link=1248393052/26#26 date=1248440476
I am a coffee machine ;D
And my wife violates me all the time...
And not in the way you guys / people / persons first think of :-[
what he said.
seriously, I encourage people to learn to use my HX machines. worst they can do is make pretty bad coffee. if they were silvias, id be a bit more careful!
if they put decaf through my grinder without asking though, Ill have their nuts/bits lightly roasted and served to the cat on a platter.
Its a good thing that a shot of steam scares away cats and small children... Both are too inquisitive for their own good.
Back to the OP, even though my brother and I are both self-confessed snobs, and equally proficient at using our own machines - When I am at his house, the most I can do is steam my own milk :o
Motion sensors hooked to Tazers are cheaper and harder to bribe! [smiley=evil.gif]Originally Posted by 6B4A4141465C2F0 link=1248393052/21#21 date=1248421497
Most are too intimidated by the sheer size of the gear. The one person who tried to make a brew promptly gave it up after grabbing the porta-filter (Im allowed! ::) ;D) incorrectly and suddenly finding out just how hot they are on a real espresso machine!Originally Posted by 5B1C1F5C57472F0 link=1248393052/0#0 date=1248393052
Java "Claymores as a final line of defense!" phile
I make it all look too complicated for my wife to try. *It has been a real deterrent for her, she wont even let me teach her how to use the gear - it looks too hard she says *:D
If your friends are not Taiwanese, you can be as direct as you like. To paraphrase a sign at the Warburton Roadhouse in remote WA:Originally Posted by 7C70737671687A711F0 link=1248393052/13#13 date=1248413019
"So help me, if one of you so much as touches *this machine* you will lose a leg"
Ahh Cindy, such a happy lady.
Great Roadhouse that one... 8-)Originally Posted by 70455C560203350 link=1248393052/32#32 date=1248504584
No I would not like it either, need some type of device that goes in the group head with a key lock like the idea with trailers where a ball locks in trailer.
I would be happy to show them how to use it, if they asked!
People who enter my home gain a *sixth sense* and know to stay the heck away from my gear. ;D
I guess I just have this aura around me that warns people to keep away from the coffee equipment! 8-) ;D
New employees in my office get the following advice:
"The fridge, toaster, sandwich press, kettle & Microwave are there for anyone to use", but the grinder & espresso are mine, and if you touch them YOU WILL DIE."
i think I posted this once before, I had a guard posted on my machine ;)
Now Lord Vader stands by mine :) Ill post a pic of that later
Ooooh, where do I hire a Stormtrooper to guard mine? I used to have a Wookie but the damn thing kept malting and you know how much hair a wookie sheds.
Colin,Originally Posted by 676B686D6A73616A040 link=1248393052/13#13 date=1248413019
Believe me, your English is much, much, much better than the Chinese most of us speak... :exclamation [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
I bought a Quaha Napoletana II (aka Lelit Combi, Nemox Dell Opera, Mokita Combi) for the office which is getting a lot of use...probably 12-15 cups a day. I charge 50c per cup to cover the price of beans, which most people conveniently Ďforgetí to pay. Iím not too fussed about it, I get to drink decent coffee whenever I want and itís still a lot cheaper than buying inferior coffee from a cafť.
In an office of 9, only 2 others are confident enough to use the machine (I end up making coffee for the others). Having said that, I will usually find it with:
1. The group handle still on group with spent coffee in the basket
2. Dried milk on the frothing arm
3. The water level dangerously low
4. The milk jug sitting on the bench, uncleaned
5. The drip tray close to overflowing
6. The hopper with no beans
7. The steam switch still turned on
It takes me 5mins of cleaning before I get to make a coffee for myself. Again, this is something Iím willing to live with for having good coffee Ďon tapí only 10 metres from my desk.
The problem now is soon Iíll be going overseas for 2 weeks. Do I trust that they wonít let the machine run dry and burn out the element? Iím very tempted to stash it away while Iím away but then face the wrath of colleagues who, thanks to me, are now addicted to good quality espresso.
Stash it away or MAKE some one else Fully RESPONSIBLE for the replacement of said unit should it be misused in your absence.Originally Posted by 5B5A50435D5842310 link=1248393052/40#40 date=1248833938
CJ, it sounds like it could be time for it to go in for a "service" while you are away, and it will be appreciated all the more when you both return ;D ;D ;D
I returned to the EM6910 after 6 months of being "between contracts".
The machine wasnt as bad as Id imagined it might be.
Hopefully the other 2 confident users will take up the slack caused by your absence.
Leave it there, tell everyone theyre welcome to use it, then take the portafilter with you. ;D
then theyll put ground coffee in the water tank and see if a coffee comes out...Originally Posted by 3D3F333B3B35322F5C0 link=1248393052/44#44 date=1248839549
get an aeropress so that when they inevitably use it wrong (microwave it, put it on the stovetop, put instant in it) then at least its only $50 to replace :D
Some great & funny suggestions there guys, thanks. I particularly love the idea of taking the group handle with me!
Perhaps the machine will mysteriously break down during my last afternoon before leaving. I still have the old EM4800 with an unpressurised Krups basket.
Of even greater concern is what I am going to do to satisfy my cravings whilst away! I really should get myself a aeropress/kyocera combo! I dont want to get stuck driking Starsucks whilst o/s.
Its a shame my aeropress doesnt fit inside the chimney, or I would be tempted to take a popcorn maker too.
Stash it away...it just so happens thats its going away for a service at around the same time youre away.
My earlier comment was, obviously, tongue in cheek.
To answer the question seriously, I would say stash it for two reasons. 1. Obviously it doesnt get damaged in a cupboard. 2. It puts people in their place and reminds them not to take it for granted. After all, its your machine, not the companys. They should be showing some respect by cleaning up after themselves and paying you the money they agreed to.
Stash it. They need to know their place.