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    does any one know why theres some times a salty flavor in coffee? and if its a good or bad thing?
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    Re: salty flavor?

    i "personally" have only experienced "salty" flavours, when i overextract...........thats just me though.....

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    Re: salty flavor?

    Not sure about salty flavors but if Im trying to understand a what Im tasting I try to relate it to as much as I can until I can narrow it down.

    eg. After smelling one of the Le Nez Du Cafe aroma kit bottles, all I could smell was flowers. Thinking about it I realised that bees and birds use pollen from flowers. The Smell was Honey.

    To throw a spanner in the coffee tasting process, my brain has linked flowers with the smell of honey.

    And just when I thought I was starting to understand too.

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    Re: salty flavor?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2E2D3023420 link=1262813574/0#0 date=1262813574
    does any one know why theres some times a salty flavor in coffee? and if its a good or bad thing?
    :D
    South Africans put salt in coffee so if the coffee in question wasnt made by a SA then I say its just what YOU are tasting (see Ronins comment below).


    Quote Originally Posted by 012D2E2B2C1D15420 link=1262813574/2#2 date=1262815616
    eg. After smelling one of the Le Nez Du Cafe aroma kit bottles, all I could smell was flowers. Thinking about it I realised that bees and birds use pollen from flowers. The Smell was Honey.
    A similar thing happened to me when Hazel tried to educate me with the kit.
    I wasnt having much luck guessing any of them until I got to one I was SURE of.
    I guessed "dirt". The answer was "grass".
    I immediately instructed my gardener to raise the mower a couple of notches. ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 516D706B616077626A61050 link=1262813574/3#3 date=1262821243
    I immediately instructed my gardener to raise the mower a couple of notches

    I had a laugh

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    Re: salty flavor?

    I keep a cupping spreadsheet where I plot all the beans Ive cupped against all the descriptors Ive used in cupping. Unfortunately it doesnt have salty, though Im certain Ive used that descriptor before. I guess I grouped it under another descriptor?

    However, theres definitely a savoury (umami) flavour group which for me includes descriptors like earthy, musty, gamey, leathery as well as some spices like cumin and black pepper. I reckon salty would fit in the same group?

    Its always amazing what you can find in a cup of coffee.

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    Re: salty flavor?

    Was the taste of salt detected shortly after a chemical back flush because that stuff does have a distinctive salty flavour.

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    Re: salty flavor?

    Follow the link and scroll down to a post from KK who has kindly put up a coffee tasters flavour wheel and a tastes/aromas wheel.

    See if this helps.

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1253365557

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    these wheels etc. are AMAZING. thank you so much Ronin!

    and thanks to everyone else for the info/feedback! its rad that theres help everywhere!

    :D :D :D

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    Re: salty flavor?

    Ive had a kind of salty espresso before at one of melbournes best cafes. It wasnt a particularly bad flavour, just unusual. I thought the barista might have done something wrong so I went on and ordered another espresso with the same beans, and it was just as salty.
    So maybe there are some coffees that are actually meant to be salty?

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    yeah its not necessarily a bad flavour, i was just curious if it was my tastebuds that were weird or if others had tasted it too. crazy coffee.

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    Re: salty flavor?

    I too have found that saltyness can be from overextraction.

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    Re: salty flavor?

    Quote Originally Posted by 4645584B2A0 link=1262813574/8#8 date=1264022041
    thank you so much Ronin!

    Thank KK not me, I just posted the link.

    Oh, I found the cupping forms useful also. They have some flavours listed that I couldnt taste until I read through it.

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    Re: salty flavor?

    If an espresso is kept waiting, smoothness of taste is lost and perceived acidity increases with time regardless of cooling. Furthermore, if the cup cools down, an unbalanced saltiness becomes noticeable.

    Espresso Coffee; The Chemistry of Quality - Illy and Viani


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    Re: salty flavor?

    Ive had a salty taste show up when the wrong temperature water was being used for extraction.


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    Re: salty flavor?

    "salty flavour can also be there if the shot is underextracted as i have tasted before :-[

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    Re: salty flavor?

    Im pretty sure one of my staff members went balistic with chemical backwash not too long ago and didnt flush properly - then no matter what we tried every coffee came out tasting salty - and I KNOW it wasnt a function of the roast as it was the last of the batch and the rest had been fine - its a flavour my roaster described as like bicarb of soda which I think describes it well

    and is it just mr or can I smell the backflush chemicals every time I backwash the machine with water?

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    Re: salty flavor?

    Yeah I have tasted coffee that I thought was salty before, in fact at a local coffee shop that uses an Australian roasters Brazil blend, always seems to me to be salty. They usually have another bean/blend on offer which dont seem to have the salty taste. I have no idea why it occurs at this place, but agree that it can occur.

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    Re: salty flavor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3C2E362935383E323B3B38383A28245D0 link=1262813574/16#16 date=1264469602
    Im pretty sure one of my staff members went balistic with chemical backwash not too long ago and didnt flush properly - then no matter what we tried every coffee came out tasting salty - and I KNOW it wasnt a function of the roast as it was the last of the batch and the rest had been fine - its a flavour my roaster described as like bicarb of soda which I think describes it well

    and is it just mr or can I smell the backflush chemicals every time I backwash the machine with water?

    This has happened to me once. Bought a coffee from a shop where i use to buy coffee every morning before work. This time though the coffee tasted kind of weird. You can taste the sourness but also had a kind of chemical taste to it.. I didnt know any better at the time and drank it anyway. :o

    Atleast i am still alive ;D





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