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    Jamaican Blue Mountain has arrived

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    Hi all

    The Jamaican Blue Mountain has been divided but unfortunatley the bag from the supplier was 90g on the light side. Apparently the last of a barrel.

    So to keep it fair, we divided the missing amount over all who purchased.

    This is pretty much what we do with the other standard coffees when the bag is light.

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    Rich

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    Re: Jamaican Blue Mountain has arrived

    Sounds fair to me.... Good thinking Rich

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    Re: Jamaican Blue Mountain has arrived

    Sounds like a good solution Rich.

    tis a bit rough that it was that light though. As a percentage of the package its 0.55% and in the age of digital scales with an +- 1gm error it is a fairly big whoops on the suppliers account.

    On a 5kg order it is only a handful of beans (and circa $10) the same error in a 60kg bag would be more than a kilo.

    How far off the mark are the 60kg bags?

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    The worst was about 7kg but the supplier offered a credit. We use to make it up out of our share but that doesnt work if we dont get an y of that particular bean. ;)

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    Re: Jamaican Blue Mountain has arrived

    The "business" of short supply is an interesting one...and it depends on whether somone buys whole bags of greens, or smaller than whole bag amounts.

    Depending on the origin, whole bags can vary from their "nominal" weight. Some origins are consistently over weight, others are consistently underweight.

    A case in point:
    Greens from Guatemala genarally come in bags marked 150 pounds. The brokers sell these to the trade as 69 kilo bags, and the trade is charged accordingly. If you weigh the whole bag, deduct around 0.75kg for the hessian, you get the actual weight. It is likely to be hovering under or slightly over 150 POUNDS, which, last time I used a calculator, is less than 69 kilos. So generally the Guats is always underweight from what has been charged.

    The brokers will tell you this is "normal" because you (the trader) are buying coffee on a forward contract from origin, facilitated by the broker, and are therefeore subject to the same contractual terms and conditions as the broker, regarding short weight...which is that you cop it sweet when the bag is underweight but within a certain percentage from the nominal, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE A WIN when the bag is overweight, as can happen with coffees from other origins...so the "desired" effect is for weight to average out over time over all your purchases...

    I dont subscribe to that line of argument. You buy and are invoiced coffee in Oz, & there are rules and regulations about obtaining what you asked and paid for. *If we are sent 63 kilos coffee in a bag, thats what I want to pay for, and if we are sent 71 kilos in a bag...ditto. UInfortunately, this is not the way it happens and in the trade we are all subject to invoice and payment on nominal rather than actual weight,

    The amount for you however, shouldnt have been 90 grams short...end of story, black and white. If you are buying small quantities less than a full bag, the amount should be being weighed by electronic scales. Scales for this purpose run at 5 gram increments. The situation is different when you buy the whole bag, it could be weighed by a traditional platform scale, and you dont necessarily expect to be accurate to 90 grams. HOWEVER, if you bring up with the broker that the weight was short, you *should* be able I think, to expect *the appropriate response.

    Except where there has been a genuine mistake made, how can there be any excuse?

    Regardez,
    FC.

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    Fair point FC.

    Look the blame all comes down to one bloke, hes been the cause of so many stuff-ups around the world and still he continues to stuff things up....

    Maybe a bounty be put upon Mr Murphy and his Law.... ;D

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    Ahh yes Murphy...the trouble with him is that hes everywhere....you turf him out of your shed, and he pops up in the kitchen, you turf him out of there, and he turnes up at work the next morning....pesky little fella ;)!

    FC.



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