Java (full of beans phile)
Yes, store them beans carefully
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Lately theres been an interest expressed amoung users about how many beans people keep on hand, so we thought wed find out. :D
With potentially sharp increases in green coffee bean prices forcast for this summers harvest some people are stashing away extra beans as a hedge.
Has this projected price increase affected your bean buying habits or is this the amount of beans you usually keep on-hand?
Java "Tell us about your beans" phile
Java (full of beans phile)
Yes, store them beans carefully
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I had a laugh Nice one Grant! ::) ;D ::)
So you going to tell us how many beans you have in that secret larder of yours? :D
Java "Has been beaned" phile
Dear Java (full of caffeine inside and out phile):
Being a responsible and upright CS member I filled in the Survey. I am in the less than 5kg. I am still finding my taste buds/feet etc re different coffees. Up until my rebirthing here at CS and seeing the light(s) (from my Silvia) I used to just order my Mocha/Java blend from Alan Frew. This is a very fine bean mix I must say but I am trying other beans now to see how they stack up. I want to go through the whole 3kg newbie pack before I order any more although I have just ordered more decaf. The decaf is a great coffee, for a decaf, very impressed. I mean you dont expect decaf to make the heavens open and the angels sing but it comes surprisingly close. I wasnt impressed by the Bolivian but so far most of these coffees are more acidic, sour than my palate is used to so. I just posted a negative comment on the Bolivian but I will roast some more up in the weeks ahead and see if I change my mind at all.
If your roasts are tasting sour I would suspect that your extraction water isnt hot enough or the beans are either under-roasted or are being roasted too fast.
Have you run any coffee through your espresso machine that was roasted elsewhere? Did it too taste sour?
Oh DOH! I wasnt seeing any results in the poll and thought nobody had voted. Then I realized I wasnt seeing any results because I hadnt voted yet!
Java "Smacking his forehead" phile
Java (helpful advice phile):
Yes, you should vote since you live in one of the biggest democracies in the world. Bolivian Carnavi for President.
No, I dont think it is the extraction as I have over and under extracted getting the grind right. It is also something I havent experienced in the years I have been drinking the Mocha/Java blend from Alan. I am fairly sure that this is a characteristic of the bean. I have been going through my www.home-barista.com/espresso-guide.html and they mention sourness from high grown vines and riley Brasils and the trick is to let the first few seconds of the shot which contain most of the acids, go into the tray. This can reduce the acid in the shot.
I have since tried the Brazilian Macaubus and that too is sour although with a bit more flavour on the palate. I have now roasted some Java which might be quite bland but I suspect much less acid in comparison. I should brew some up now for a taste just to see.
On sweet marias sight she give the Bolivian coffee 9.0 for acidity so acidity(high) is a characteristic.
It looks like Brazilian is lower in acid and Java still lower again (7.5). Looks like the Bolivian/Brazilian might be better blended.
The Java I just did a shot, not a brilliant one as I have only just (about two hours ago) roasted it but it is a very pleasant soft coffee with lower acidity (very noticeably less acid). I think maybe this is more my style. Certainly a Brazilian and Java might be a good combination.
Interesting doing all these comparisons, I really am learning things about coffee and the different types.
Hhhmm...I dont normally associate sourness with acidity. But then again if you read my review of the Caranavi in the cupping section youll see I thought it was some of the least acidic coffee Ive ever had. ;D
Java "Always looking for new beans" phile
So is anybody else squirreling some beans away against the expected price hike in a few months or am I the only one?
Java "Beans! Must have more beans!" phile
I dont think Im squirreling, i just cant help it.. I have to have them all!!!!
Me too. I am not hoarding, but I am just tempted too easily :)
<Shocked look of dismay> Im not hoarding! Im merely being economicaly sensible! ;D ::) ;D
Hoarding will be, *ahem* I mean would be, when I hit 300kg. ;D :o ;D
Even at 150kg Id still merely be a packrat. :D ;D :D
Java "This will be a problem on the sailboat!" phile
Quite true, Javaphile. I applaud your sense of economic efficiency. More power to you, I say!
Java isnt hoarding he is just copying the squirrels and preparing for winter (well prepare all summer long).
...Image/Java with his cheeks bulging with the best Bolivian La Paz Stratosphere bean /Image.
hardy hardy har
Now if Java starts eating those green beans then mysteriously comes up with a new really nutty blend....Im gonna be suss....real suss -kopi luwak style *;D
Ive never really thought of it as hoarding or squirreling away, more like an investment in future satisfaction. But then again, maybe hoarding some away is not such a bad idea....
Hmmmm, have got about 40Kgs stashed away in various cupboards, nooks and crannies.... now where else can I stow them, I know! The Linen Cupboard. ;D The bags almost look like old pillows, sort of, so shouldnt attract any attention.
Whats that dear? What am I mumbling about the Linen Cupboard for? Oh nothing, nothing at all, just looking for a new, errr, pillowslip, thats all. Ah well, so much for the Linen Cupboard, now where else can I look......
Just as long as I dont imitate Scrats lost adventure Going Nutty. ;DOriginally Posted by wattgn link=1118439720/0#12 date=1118740067
Java "Spitting (but NOT jumping on) another mouthful of beans into his stash" phile
>How many Green Beans do you have?
125,329 - and it took me all night to count, so I hope you are satisfied.
<Javaphile points to the 2 beans over in the corner on the floor>
Did you count those JM? Better countem all again just to make sure! ;D
Java "Not a bean counter" phile
Damn, missed them!
Ill have enough to get me through a while by next October/November as my Austrian bricklayer Mate has a Farm with 40+ trees that he did not harvest this year due to work commitments, So in 2006 Ill bee green Been Riche..
But i need direction on wet or Dry processing..
Ive just had a look at my stash figures.
Since Ive been a snob, Ive ordered 37 kg of green beans and consumed about 13kg. At the moment Ive got about 22ks at home, should last till about July07.
Best I get some more, hey Andy! Ready when you are. ;)
Managed to accumulate 60kg in the last 3 months. Gonna have to learn to say no one of these days.
I aspire to that last category!
Barely making the first this week sadly.
Ive managed to stash a few kgs away myself, and not just on my stomach *:(.
After voting in the 0-5 kg area in November, I just inventoried my stash and its now up to 27 kg *:). Woo hoo.
Its probably a good thing that I missed the last poll, the SO would have been none too impressed with more green in the cup board. Its a good thing were moving house soon, Ill have my own shed to put them in *8-).
On average, 20-25kg; usually three varietals (two African, one South American).
It seems to make for enough diversity, and takes the last bit of space in my kitchen pantry.
Life is good!
Finally I can be added to this poll after purchasing 5kgs of beans on bean bay plus the starter pack plus 2 kgs I sourced elsewhere along the way. So 9.4kgs of beans without my machine yet. But I think my wifes patience is now fully tested. Although she has agreed to me making a storage trolley for all my beans and equipment. I am sure she will be convinced after the first freshly roasted latte passes her lips.
That I am sure of Brett... you just cant get fresher.. and you noticed it in the cup, even in the brewing... mmmmmm :-)Originally Posted by Coffeechaser link=1118439720/15#25 date=1161323192
Oh, yeh, I have approx 30-35kgs... My wife has put a stop until stash reduces.... mainly because of storage problems... I store my beans with my wine celler - bottom shelf (floor) of the pantry - coolest part of the house and that area is chockers.
Mrs Grendel is a strong convert to my coffee hobby - often asks for a coffee in the evenings now so at this rate Sir Thomas Lipton may be banished from the house at some point.
It is good when the whole family gets involved isnt it Grendel? I am hoping my little girl will want to be involved in it as she gets bigger and can help. For now she just sits there and watches her Dad learn by his mistakes. My wife is good at explaining tastes which is helpful as well. Maybe our partners figure this hobby will be around a long time so better to be part of it so they can see us. I am glad my family is part of it.
I agree with that statement ;-)Originally Posted by Coffeechaser link=1118439720/15#28 date=1162862414
My two and four year old are already "roasting coffee with daddy" mummy, and love the smell of it roasted.
One of my mates over for a coffee the other day said "did you put chocolate in my coffee?". I dont know exactly which bean it was from this current blend, but Im assuming the Malabar.
The wife (mochamistress???) readily says yes to the purchase of new green beans, since she loves a coffee.
I actually found my son asleep in the bottom of my pantry this morning - directly underneath my stash of green beans.
Oh, and Sir Thomas Lipton only sees the light of day upon request from a small number of pagan, non-coffee drinking friends.
Classic!!Originally Posted by MochaMaster link=1118439720/30#30 date=1162865318
Guarding my Dads stash...... What a pity you werent able to take a photo,Originally Posted by MochaMaster link=1118439720/30#30 date=1162865318
Either that or fell asleep while trying to nick some of it. ;DOriginally Posted by Mal link=1118439720/30#32 date=1162885798
Java "Guard the stash!" phile
Actually, I DID take a few photos, except you cant see the green beans in them, just the bottom of a few black one way valve bags on the shelf above.
Dont have any green beans yet, but just had to share cute story (seems to have moved on to that?!)
My 22mth old daughter gets up every morning and the first thing she does is says:
Good morning Brewtus (nickname for my machine!) Brewtus on Mummy? (She knows I need my coffee first thing!). Baby cino per favore? (she has a t-shirt with this written on it!)
She also orders her own coffee when we go out, and the local cafe knows her by name and order!!
Ha ha - you know you drink too much coffee when you see your kid making cinos for all her dolls! (and slurping the dregs out of your cup when youre not looking!!)
Just had to share! Sorry about not being relevant!
One of the first words my now 4 year old said was "coffee" as he was pointing and grinning at the stainless steel beast on the bench.
My 2 year old wants to be a barista when he grows up too. If dad stands in front of the coffee machine often enough, well it must be good enough for him too.
Little ones are great for sure :D..... Better get back to topic now though,
No apologies needed NMC, twas just a gentle nudge is all :),
Is there a "shelf life" to storing green beans, i.e. how long before they are no longer good for roasting?
I noticed someone on the poll has 200 kgs of beans in their house. How long will it take to finish that? :o
Accepted shelf life I believe is max 3 years.
Some people go through more beans than others so I cant answer your second question.
Had a Chat with Serge Siboni a few months ago about this and he reckons upto 10 years....
I guess it depends on the bean and the processing method :-?
And the method of storage too,Originally Posted by Segrave link=1118439720/30#43 date=1176866213
Hhhmmm....A recent windfall has forced me to change my vote. A week ago while doing some random searching I ran across an ad on the local Craigslist for some beans from a coffee shop/specialty roaster that had gone under being sold at bargain basement prices. I contacted the seller and after spending an hour going over the beans I ended up returning home with a much heavier car and a bit of a lighter wallet.
As we went to load the beans into my car I found myself once again missing my van. Life would have been so much easier with the van! Eventually we managed to get 2 bags into the trunk (Hurray for big trunks!) leaving just 2 bags to get into the interior of the car, one of which had to go into the back seat. In a 2 door coupe! Eventually we managed to struggle a bag into the back seat and then put the other in the front passenger seat. I had a laugh I dare say that car never carried such a heavy load!
Upon arriving home the real fun began. Getting the bags out pf the car! Especially the one in the back seat! I had a laugh We made quite the sight for the neighbors while struggling to get the bag out of the back seat! At one point I ended up sitting/laying on the curb with a bag of beans sitting in my lap. I had a laugh The neighborhood kids were quite amused to say the least. ::) ;D
Eventually we did manage to get the beans into the house and we even did it with-out hurting ourselves or spilling the beans! Amazing! ::)
Seeing as my shelf storage system wasnt up to the task of holding all the new beans I ended up redoing my storage area by bringing in a couple of pallets and putting all the beans on them.
I think I can now stop buying more beans as a hedge against inflation and rising prices as it will take awhile for even me to go through all the beans I now have. With just shy of 400kg of beans here I think Im now pretty well set. At least for a year or two! :D ::) ;D
Java "All beaned up!" phile
You guys are awesome ! I constantly feel not so alone amoung you 8-)
About 60kg at present ;)
Just dipped under 70kg.
Been roasting for ~2 months now. Once this months beanbay takes delivery Ill be up to 22kg :D
Alright snobbers, time to finally admit how many green beans you have in your house, stashed away in the roof away from the partner, inside dummy electronic devices "honey, how come the door wont open on the oven?" inside the tubing of your bicycle?
where ever you hide it, i wanna know......
Just how many kilos do you have?
ps im a light weight at only 25kg, with another 7.5 on the way!