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    Stove-top Crema

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    You cant get real crema from a stove top because the water temperature is way too hot (over 100 C).

    But it is possible to give the appearance of crema:

    Pack the filter basket with fine grounds so the brew will have a little trouble coming through.

    When the first, thick, very black drops emerge, take the macchinetta off the stove and empty those precious drops into a cup.

    Mix in enough sugar to produce a very thick, golden *paste.

    Continue brewing.

    Spoon some of that paste onto an espresso-sized cup and fill with the normal brew.

    There. Instant "crema". *[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

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    Re: Stove-top Crema

    ....ahhhhhh..... dude...... did you forget that you own a Silvia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyCJ link=1127205410/0#1 date=1127206618
    ....ahhhhhh..... * dude...... *did you forget that you own a Silvia?

    Sometimes I like to lapse into the dark old days. Makes me more appreciative of the Silvia.

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    Re: Stove-top Crema

    Surely instant crema is sold in a can pressurised with nitrous oxide somewhere?

    I would have thought Sunbeam would have been onto this one!

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    Re: Stove-top Crema

    I have an Italian friend and that is how she makes "espressos" for her Dad

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarexican link=1127205410/0#4 date=1127213227
    I have an Italian friend and that is how she makes "espressos" for her Dad

    Mmmmm....wonder if she also taught me.

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    I gotta say, when I stayed in Italy they did love the stovetop! Paolas dad was always knocking out the grinds and making a new pot.

    Most amusing thing is the tiny little "coffee bars" where there are no seats cept a couple outside, and you just nip in and have the espresso standing at the bar! Wonderfull cultural change, and a good chance for many crazed caffeine filled italians to "practice their english".

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyCJ link=1127205410/0#6 date=1127301981
    I gotta say, when I stayed in Italy they did love the stovetop! *Paolas dad was always knocking out the grinds and making a new pot.

    Most amusing thing is the tiny little "coffee bars" where there are no seats cept a couple outside, and you just nip in and have the espresso standing at the bar! *Wonderfull cultural change, and a good chance for many crazed caffeine filled italians to "practice their english".

    Yes, Italians certainly do love their coffee -- and the stove top is the only appliance which approximates true espresso as made by a coffee machine, because it brews under pressure. * The taste is a little burned, but certainly superior to plungers and drips.

    I have quite an array of stove tops, from *one-cup, two-cup, four-cup (each with their own spout) and 6-cup.

    They are what I use away from home and the coffee machine.

    And shops....yes, were it not for shops and the tourists they attract, English would not be the universal language it is.

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    I dig a stovetop for camping which I do regularly. Cant take the Carezza out bush. So Ill definatly be trying your crema idea this weekend and see how it goes.

    Grampions caffe crema here I come.

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    Having just returned from Italy this week and missing the goss form this website, I can confirm that the stove-top is still very much alive and well there. You can get them in plain-jane aluminium or swish porcelain jobs, or coloured metal, or shiny stainless steel models. The variety is vast. Some domestic machines are available in shops, but I didnt meet anyone who had one - and in a way, why would they! Italy is just plain sensational for coffee - thousands of bars serving superb espressos - even bars in one-horse towns! - *and for a paltry 0.65 euro.

    However, I still cant understand how their neighbours, the French, can get it so wrong... :-/

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    joe:

    Interesting the price difference. Everything else in Italy is bloody expensive. I cant help think that the $35/kg prices charge for coffee shouldnt be close to $15/kg even for the good stuff. When you think beans only cost about $2/kg when they arrive in the country, sometimes less.

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    My Italian in-laws love their stovetops.
    Theyve got Bialettis in 1,2,4,6 & 9 cup sizes which they have used for years.
    Interestingly, I always thought that a stainless one would be better, but the in-laws swear by the aluminium Bialettis and reckon the stainless Vev-Viganos, etc (of which they have a couple) are crap.
    My mother in-law is considering purchasing something called a Bialetti "Brika" which is a normal 4-cup Bialetti with a Crema-producing device inside!
    My wife says all her rellos back in Italy only use stovetops at home.
    I gave them my old Sunbeam aromatic and while they love it, they only use it a couple of times a week, cause they reckon the moka-pot is more convenient.
    Its a pity my father-in-law Monti doesnt still have his early sixties 2-group lever Gaggia from his Cafe days. :(

    (He had a 75 model 2G Faema as well, but that is also gone).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim link=1127205410/0#11 date=1128738962
    Its a pity my father-in-law Monti doesnt still have his early sixties 2-group lever Gaggia from his Cafe days. :((He had a 75 model 2G Faema as well, but that is also gone).

    Thats a real pity, Tim. *Those machines would not only have epitimised the retro LOOK -- they ARE retro, the real thing. Even if they didnt work, and you had the space, theyd make fine displays and talking points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim link=1127205410/0#11 date=1128738962
    My Italian in-laws love their stovetops.
    Theyve got Bialettis in 1,2,4,6 & 9 cup sizes which they have used for years.
    Interestingly, I always thought that a stainless one would be better, but the in-laws swear by the aluminium Bialettis and reckon the stainless Vev-Viganos, etc (of which they have a couple) are crap.
    Tim
    My rels are the same - all sorts of stove-tops in different sizes, but theyre not interested in stainless steel. I reckon the coffee they produce tastes the same, but maybe Im missing something...



    Quote Originally Posted by wattgn link=1127205410/0#10 date=1128693988

    Interesting the price difference. *Everything else in Italy is bloody expensive. *
    Grant
    Yes and no.
    Petrol is expensive (1.30/litre), so is meat and most fish, but curiously, not so most smallgoods. Fruit & vegies are about the same. Away from tourist areas, it seems pretty reasonable. Liquor, on the other hand, is CHEAP!
    Hows this: last Saturday night in a suburban Rome supermarket I bought:
    1 bottle Cointreau 700ml
    1 bottle Martell Cognac 700ml
    1 bottle Romano Sambuca 700ml
    1 bottle Grappa 500ml

    Total: 43 !! (ie. $69)

    Now, if one could live by espresso and grog alone.... *::)


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    Joe wrote:
    Now, if one could live by espresso and grog alone.... *


    Doesnt everybody? :o
    --Robusto, whacked by the twin evils of caffeine and grog

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    I used to use a 12 cup stainless steel stovetop pot before I got a Silvia. It went well until the handle eventually fell off and a few burns from handling the pot with a tea towel was one of the motivators to upgrade at the time!

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    Talk about getting your fingers burned! Usually that expression relates to an unfortunate incident. But in your case, Wired, a very positive result -- it set you on your way to enjoying superior coffee via the Silvia. A very good outcome, Id say.

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    Re: Stove-top Crema

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    Doubling an oven mitt might have helped a bit. After a while, your hands become leather, and you can grab hot trays out of the oven. Keep up the training :P



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