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    Hi All,

    This has probably been covered elsewhere, so I apologise if that is so. *I am now accumulating a nice stash of CS single-origin beans and would like to know that I am storing them well. *Can anybody help please with advice about storage of green beans?

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    I keep them in the bags they came in and keep them in a dry, dark place... Although I have a dilemma in storage space... I have quite a stash of greens now (About 20kgs) .. thinking of a Box to hold my bags of greens and storing in a cupboard somewhere... Should be ok to do this I would think.. My understanding is they need to be able to breathe...

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    Ive been giving this a lot of thought - I need to keep mine in the garage - it is about the only place we have space - but I dont want them falling victim to the depredations of caffeine crazed rodents or other vermin so I am going to build a coffee chest.

    My timber working skills are of a pretty low grade, but if I take a little care with the project I should be able to turn out a decent box. I figure it will still have breathing room - and I may fit a nice brass vent to the top to make sure. I am going to use Jarrah (it might as well look nice) and Ill post piccies and plans once its done.

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    I will watch this space :-)

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    Some good tips here on green storage

    http://www.sweetmarias.com/greenstorage.html

    It seems one of the best places to store them is in the cotton bags they ship in from CS.

    and from http://www.coffeebeancorral.com/custom.aspx?id=4

    "Green beans will last for around two years without any appreciable loss of flavor. Green coffee beans should be stored in some sort of container that will allow it to breathe and not impart another flavor to the beans: burlap bags, paper bags, etc.; avoid plastic containers. Storing them at room temperature is fine, but I prefer a cool place out of direct light. Ideal is ~70 degrees fahrenheit and ~50% relative humidity."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corretto link=1160091135/0#4 date=1160097401
    Some good tips here on green storage
    "Green beans will last for around two years without any appreciable loss of flavor. Green coffee beans should be stored in some sort of container that will allow it to breathe and not impart another flavor to the beans: burlap bags, paper bags, etc.; avoid plastic containers. Storing them at room temperature is fine, but I prefer a cool place out of direct light. Ideal is ~70 degrees fahrenheit and ~50% relative humidity."

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    Yep 10 to 23 deg C at 50% humidity seems to be the go and in cotton or some other natural fibre bags,,, :)

    One summary I read said that if it is comfortable for people (not too hot, cold or sticky) its also fine for beans... Sheds "out the back" probably get far too hot in summer and too cold in winter - depending where you live :(

    ****Warning**** the green beans absorb aromas etc from nearby items so dont store your precious beans near anything with an aroma.... including spices, garlic etc in your pantry or fuel and other interesting stuff in a garage. :-[

    Grendel... you would want to make sure that the wood is old and odour free... that eucalyptus flavour and aroma...... MMMM

    Jarrah coffee anyone :o?????

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    I have a client who was throwing out a couple of humidors, the bigger ones that sit on counters in pubs, etc and he threw them my way.

    Took out the smaller shelves and the bags stack neatly.

    Excellent, although now I am fast running out of storage so will need to look for some more.

    Being able to regulate the relative humidity adds to the w*nk factor considerably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rowdee link=1160091135/0#6 date=1160099099
    I have a client who was throwing out a couple of humidors, the bigger ones that sit on counters in pubs, etc and he threw them my way.

    Took out the smaller shelves and the bags stack neatly.

    Excellent, although now I am fast running out of storage so will need to look for some more.

    Being able to regulate the relative humidity adds to the w*nk factor considerably.
    Do you have any photos of this Rowdee? Sounds interesting

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    Yep 10 to 23 deg C at 50% humidity seems to be the go and in cotton or some other natural fibre bags,,, Smiley

    One summary I read said that if it is comfortable for people (not too hot, cold or sticky) its also fine for beans... Sheds "out the back" probably get far too hot in summer and too cold in winter - depending where you live cry

    ****Warning**** the green beans absorb aromas etc from nearby items so dont store your precious beans near anything with an aroma.... including spices, garlic etc in your pantry or fuel and other interesting stuff in a garage.
    Wonder how my beans are going to go during the summer heat and humidity up here. Often gets above 30 C and 70% humidity in the room I store the beans!

    Would the beans absorb the flavours/odours of the beans they sit next too?? :-/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corretto link=1160091135/0#8 date=1160099930
    Wonder how my beans are going to go during the summer heat and humidity up here. Often gets above 30 C and 70% humidity in the room I store the beans!
    Belinda
    Well looks like aircon is the go..... Just declare a room in your house the "bean room" and put in an aircon! - I wish ;)

    Would the beans absorb the flavours/odours of the beans they sit next too??
    I guess they would to some extent.... but at least that wouldnt be as bad as the flavour/aroma of moth balls placed in the pantry cupboard to keep those little pantry moths at bay :(

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    Your wish is my command, although you did interrupt my coffee. Had to go and unlock the shed, get the camera... anyway, the plan is to get some more and build them up the whole wall.

    They are worth a few bucks so they dont get thrown out every day, but you never know.

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    Thanks for the photos Rowdee :-)

    Looks very interesting. How do they work though?


    And Java ........

    Im sure many a CS would face the problem of beans interbreeding then. Itd take up just too much room to store every bag of beans apart from one another :-/


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    Belinda,

    To quote from Wikipedia: "A humidor is any kind of box or room with constant humidity (and often temperature as well) used to store cigars or pipe tobacco. For private use, small wooden or acrylic glass humidor boxes for a few dozen cigars are used, while cigar shops may have walk-in humidors, sometimes covering a whole floor. Humidors of all sizes use hygrometers to keep track of the humidity levels."

    The hygrometer measures the relative humidity. You can see the dial on the one on the right of the photo. The "sponge", at the bottom is used to regulate the amount of moisture, humidity. I dont worry about it for the coffee, but am interested to see how they go in summer. Melbournes climate though is good for things like wine, cigars.

    Geoff.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Corretto link=1160091135/0#11 date=1160101208
    Im sure many a CS would face the problem of beans interbreeding then. Itd take up just too much room to store every bag of beans apart from one another :-/
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    Belinda,

    I think the chance of interbreeding to a noticeable extent would be close to zero...

    Pity... would be great to have lots of little beans running around - and for free too ;)

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    Thanks Geoff. Yep, it doesnt get too humid in Melbourne, but Brisbania on the other hand ::)

    I assume you keep the sponge water logged to increase the humidity there? I on the other hand have the opposite problem ............

    Would really need a dehumidifier :-?



    And Java, I didnt really mean interbreeding, wrong word I think ;D although that would definitely be interesting!

    I was thinking more of transferrence of smells and characteristics of one bean to the next. But I suppose this happens to some degree in a pre blend mix anyway ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corretto link=1160091135/0#14 date=1160102354
    And Java, I didnt really mean interbreeding, wrong word I think ;D although that would definitely be interesting!

    I was thinking more of transferrence of smells and characteristics of one bean to the next. But I suppose this happens to some degree in a pre blend mix anyway ..

    Belinda
    Dont worry - I knew what you meant and my answer refers to that - i.e. doubt you would notice any transfer....

    But the mental picture of the beans interbreeding..... couldnt resist the comment :D ;D

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    Java - yeah mate I wondered about that myself (woody flavours that is). Im thinking along the old tea chest lines where the timber was lined with a foil. In this case I am thinking on a lined chest with a vent at the top.

    Having seen that humidor though - I could whack something like that together although I havent worked with acrylic for years.

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    Bugger that! What about those storage boxes for whole food like you get in coles and woolies these days? The nut boxes - they must turn those out by the thousand somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grendel link=1160091135/15#17 date=1160103004
    Bugger that! What about those storage boxes for whole food like you get in coles and woolies these days? The nut boxes - they must turn those out by the thousand somewhere.
    Now that would be a great idea....

    Get the small ones - one partition per bean ;) ;D

    Like it!

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    You could try the auction sites that sell stuff from repossed shops etc. Ive been to these in the past and they are rather painful though [smiley=embarassed.gif]


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    Yep Belinda, the idea with the "sponge" in a cigar humidor is to use distilled water so you dont flavour the cigars. I have a neat little device in my cigar humidor that actually regulates the amount of moisture so it keeps the RH at the required level. I check the water container every week and top up as necessary.

    As I said I dont worry about the coffee, havent even put any water in yet and the RH hasnt moved from around 60%. I am thinking about moving them from the shed during summer because it gets bloody hot in there so will keep an eye on the temp.

    Why dont you talk to the guys at Mountain Top, they obviously have to cope with the humidity as well even though it is not as bad as Brisbane. They might have a simple solution. Or, I suspect they will probably tell you that as long as you keep the beans in a dark, reasonably cool place you wont have a problem.

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    Well it is a work in progress - lots to do still including the double lining - one of insulating foil and one layer of calico. The outside I will stain with a low odour stain. The box will then have to rest for a month before I put coffee in it. My partner will also decorate the lid with a coffee motif (shes a scrapbooker).


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    And inside it:


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    Your the man!!

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    Looking good there Grendel! Looks like some really nice work there! [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]


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    Im thinking of naming it the Coffen

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    Quote Originally Posted by grendel link=1160091135/15#25 date=1160226117
    Im thinking of naming it the Coffen
    You can get one of the big burlap bags from Andy. Itd make a perfect Beanbag for the Coffen! ;)


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    Ahhh - burlap, thats what I really want instead of calico as a liner!

    Mrs Grendel is pretty pleased with the coffee hobby - its the most shes ever seen me use my power tools in years.

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    Looking very nice there Grendel :-) Are you putting shelfs inside the coffen?


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    Naaa - I figured Id just stuff the bags in there. Hadnt really thought that far ahead!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grendel link=1160091135/15#29 date=1160233022
    Naaa - I figured Id just stuff the bags in there. Hadnt really thought that far ahead!
    Come on... after your brilliant idea with the Coles/Woolies nut displays cases...

    You should have dividers, little slide in name tag areas in each compartment..... maybe even a number of little pidgon hole like boxes - one per bean variety ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by grendel link=1160091135/15#27 date=1160229022
    Ahhh - burlap, thats what I really want instead of calico as a liner!

    Mrs Grendel is pretty pleased with the coffee hobby - its the most shes ever seen me use my power tools in years.
    And itll give her a handy bag to put the body in when shes had enough of the toys! Better put off that move into her sewingroom you were considering! ;D


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    The Stuffed Look:


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    And here is a shot of it outside after staining.

    I used a coffee reduction as the stain - just to keep it in theme. . .


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    Quote Originally Posted by grendel link=1160091135/30#32 date=1160277259
    The Stuffed Look:
    Hey great job!!

    But looks pretty full... :o

    Do you still have room to squeeze in tomorrows beans?????

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    Yup - there is room in there for about 12kg of beans.

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    Does it come with expansion slots? ;) ;D


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    Quote Originally Posted by grendel link=1160091135/30#33 date=1160277343
    And here is a shot of it outside after staining.
    I used a coffee reduction as the stain - just to keep it in theme. . .
    Wow!

    Pretty spic there Grendel. My storage methods resemble something more akin to what a pack-rat would probably do.... a few bags stashed here in the Linen cupboard, a few more stashed in my wardrobe, yet more stashed in various kitchen cupboards. Havent purloined any space in the bathroom yet but that atmosphere is probably too humid anyway ;D....

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