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    Where To Buy Quality Ceramics?

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    I want to get some really nice Italian espresso and cappuccino cups for giving as a gift. Illy quality but not Illy prices! I am in Sydney and would prefer to shop locally so I can see (and feeeeel) the merchandise before purchase. Or a good recommendation by a CSer could tempt me to buy online from interstate.

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    Re: Where To Buy Quality Ceramics?

    Ive got some 260 ml cups if you are interested.
    German made *- Rosenthal.
    No espresso sized ones though.
    Theres a picture in this thread: http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1163807810/
    You are welcome to see and feel them.

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    Re: Where To Buy Quality Ceramics?

    I use a great brand called incasa. These are excellent coffee cups. Cheap too, about $20 for six.

    I am not sure where you are but Peter at simply coffee has them. He also has other stuff if you are in Adelaide. Most coffee suppliers would probably have these cups as they are very good value for money.

    This is a pic of three of them, the patterns are different now as I have had mine about 3 years.


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    Re: Where To Buy Quality Ceramics?

    Here is a pic of the inside of the cup, the rim is nice and thick and the base is curved (the tomato is there to show the thickness of the rim).

    I have found these are great for pouring latte art - even though I am still learning I get more success with these than any other cup.

    We actually bought these for family members as a gift in New Zealand and they are dishwasher safe.


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    If you can get hold of ACF ceramics (not to be confused with AFC) then you will be on to a good thing. *The only problem is that they are expensive and hard to source.

    The quality is amazing and have great heat retention.

    You will probably want to keep them for yourself though.

    I use incasa espresso cups and find them to be very good as well. *I bought mine from a local Italian deli for about $16.00 for a set of 6 espresso cups and saucers. *Cant go wrong with that price.

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    Re: Where To Buy Quality Ceramics?

    I have had great success recently scouting for cups in 2nd hand stores such as St Vinnies & the Salvos, and I managed to get my hands on several sets of excellent 150ml coffee cups (still boxed) and some AFC cups and saucers, which looked like the had not been used as all, plus a stunning ceramic sugar bowl and lid - all for the paltry sum of $3!

    These are too good to give away, though, Im keeping them for myself!

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    Re: Where To Buy Quality Ceramics?

    Thanks for the replies

    Thanks for the offer Thundergod but I am looking for a different shape to those, more tulip shaped.

    I will look for the Incasa brand they look really nice, thanks for the photos lucinda. ACF would be good too if I can find them. I might ring Caffe Bianchi and see if they have any.

    Vinnies sounds promising too, but for a gift!? :o


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    Re: Where To Buy Quality Ceramics?

    I think I saw ACF in Cafe Bianchi last time I had a sticky beak in there.

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    Confusion with Nuova Point cups

    This is my very first post (thanks to Andy F for reminding me). I found this two types of Nuova point cups,

    Sorrento - Espresso Cups - 60 ml - 2 oz
    Amalfi - Cappuccino Cups - 150 ml - 5 oz

    My question above is the conversion from ml to oz. Ive used 30 ml = 1 oz.

    However, I see this in http://store.baristatools.com/espresso-accessories.html where it says 3oz and 6.5 oz, respectively.

    Which is correct? Any owners here who can make actual measurements when filling the cups to the brim and not as mentioned on the box?

    Next question is, if I want a macchiato with a double shot of espresso, will that be 60 ml + 15 ml for the foam?

    Sorry for this newbie questions.

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    Re: Confusion with Nuova Point cups

    Congratulations on your first post, may there be many more. :)

    There are 28.375 mls in an oz. So the 2 oz cup would be 56.75 mls, and the 5 oz cup would be 141.875 mls. I guess the question is were the cups made in metric or imperial? Most likely metric, Id say.

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    Re: Confusion with Nuova Point cups

    I just filled one of my Amalfi cappucino cups to the brim with water and it measured 175 mL... Hope thats of some use to you...

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    Re: Confusion with Nuova Point cups

    Thanks Viviane and Beanmeister.

    With both your inputs, my guess is that the manufacturer added a bit of margin on the amount you can use on the cups. In the case of the espresso cups, I would say it would then fill-up to 80-85 mL.

    Can any other members confirm this? Thanks.

    So Beanmeister, hope you dont mind if I ask where you bought your cups?

    Im in Auckland at the moment and the only one I can find here are ACF cups. Now their measurements are a bit confusing as well.

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    Re: Confusion with Nuova Point cups

    No problem dcaffeine8d - I got mine from a local seller on ebay... They sell both the espresso and cappucino cups...

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    Re: Confusion with Nuova Point cups

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanmeister link=1173005438/0#4 date=1173058728
    No problem dcaffeine8d - I got mine from a local seller on ebay... They sell both the espresso and cappucino cups...
    It seems were getting from the same source then. ;p

    He just posted my amalfi cups but I want to get the sorrento cups as well. Only problem is that I want to make sure that it isnt small for macchiato with a double espresso base.

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    Where to buy ACF cups?

    This has probably been asked by more than one person before, but.... is it possible to buy ACF cups here in Oz or does one have to source them OS?

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    Re: Where to buy ACF cups?

    Im pretty sure I saw some in Cafe Bianchi in Leichhardt but the price scared me off.

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    Re: Where To Buy Quality Ceramics?

    Hey Beanjuice, how did you go? Im looking for some ACF cups myself...

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    Re: Where To Buy Quality Ceramics?

    One place that definitely has them is Rio Coffee in SA. They carry white, brown and ivory and price ranges from $63+gst per dozen for espresso size to $90+gst per dozen for 220mL cappuccino size. They come in boxes of 6.

    I havent ordered any yet. Im waiting to see what I can find in Sydney.

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    Re: Where to buy ACF cups?

    Good luck finding them at a good price in Oz.

    Ive found it in some NZ sites (close to Oz) so shipping might be cheaper.

    Check http://www.laffare.co.nz

    They sell ACF cups and more (cheap I think). They also ship overseas.

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    Re: Where to buy ACF cups?

    I know that Veneziano can get them and Im sure that they must be available here somewhere.

    Seems like its a really good opportunity for a CS bulk order....

    Andy, you wanna set up CS Ceramic bay?? :-? ;)

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    Re: Where to buy ACF cups?

    Curious, what is the deal with these cups? do they hold heat better or are they more a cosmetic thing?

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    Re: Where To Buy Quality Ceramics?

    Chefs Warehouse on Albion St in Surry Hills have the brown Nuova Point cappuccino and espresso cups.

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    Re: Where to buy ACF cups?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman link=1173092713/0#3 date=1173130138
    I know that Veneziano can get them and Im sure that they must be available here somewhere.

    Seems like its a really good opportunity for a CS bulk order....
    ACF are entirely out of stock at ACF Australia and ACF NZ at the moment. They seem to have taken the coffee-drinking world by storm. Yes, that would be a storm in a cappuccino cup ;P

    We have had an order for various colours and sizes in for a while and Im told that they should be in in a few weeks. I gather that practically every person at Veneziano is going to buy themselves a set, so we might well have to order more when theyre back in stock!

    Curious, what is the deal with these cups? do they hold heat better or are they more a cosmetic thing?
    Nothing too special; just that theyre very good quality. The tulip shaped espresso cup is pretty standard. The cappuccino cup is the big one that people are after. Its a 150mL (or is that 170mL?) tulip-shaped cup. The point is that it is a very good size for a single shot + milk, which tends to get lost in the aussie standard 210mL drink. For home use, its great because you dont have to choose between making your 210mL drinks too weak for guests or pulling doubles as bases and taking twice as long to serve everyone. Of course, I tend to pull a double into an ACF anyway!

    If people are interested, I can post up on CS to let everyone know when theyre in.

    Cheers,

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    Re: Where to buy ACF cups?

    Curious, what is the deal with these cups?
    Theyve got my initials on them, so they must be good!!


    If people are interested, I can post up on CS to let everyone know when theyre in.
    Count me in Luca!! [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]

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    Re: Where to buy ACF cups?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flo link=1173092713/0#6 date=1173144631
    Curious, what is the deal with these cups?
    Theyve got my initials on them, so they must be good!!
    Oh course, did think of that one :-)

    yeh, thats true so Luca, the Aussie 210mil Cups (what I have now) are too large and I have been looking for smaller cups.. now I know what to look for :-) ..

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    Re: Where to buy ACF cups?

    AFC (Australian Fine China) have a 180ml tulip cup, they are marked as 210ml but if you measure them they are exactly 180ml.


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    Re: Where to buy ACF cups?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pioneer Roaster link=1173092713/0#8 date=1173152322
    AFC (Australian Fine China) have a 180ml tulip cup, they are marked as 210ml but if you measure them they are exactly 180ml.
    perfect :)

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    Re: Where to buy ACF cups?

    Quote Originally Posted by 2muchcoffeeman link=1173092713/0#3 date=1173130138
    I know that Veneziano can get them and Im sure that they must be available here somewhere.

    Seems like its a really good opportunity for a CS bulk order....

    Andy, you wanna set up CS Ceramic bay?? *:-? ;)
    ChinaBay?

    I have been fishing around for the perfect CS cup sets after the interest in CS-logo gear. I had a look at the AFC (Australian Fine China) cups which although called Australian they are sourced from Australia, Italy, EU and of course China depending on which item you are talking about. Some of their square serving plates are made in Western Australia but it seemed that the bulk of it was from China which when you are talking about "china" doesnt seem too strange an origin.

    I think we will need to expand the log poll into a ACF / AFC / Colour poll to see what people would want before we ordered a tonne of them though.

    AFC (Australian Fine China) have a 180ml tulip cup, they are marked as 210ml but if you measure them they are exactly 180ml.
    Very bizzare! Maybe they were counting the volume of the saucer too?

    ;)

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    Re: Where to buy ACF cups?

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Freeman link=1173092713/0#10 date=1173162000
    Very bizzare! *Maybe they were counting the volume of the saucer too?

    ;)
    I thought you only did that for tea!

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    Re: Where to buy ACF cups?

    Nuova Point is a competitor to ACF. I have both brands and think one is as good as the other. Theyre often available on a certain bidding site, but the colour might be a bit of a turn off for some....

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    Re: Where To Buy Quality Ceramics?

    Allegro Coffee in Newtown also have the brown Nuova Point cups I am told. This is good!

    Any more sources for quality ACF, Nuova Point etc?

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    Re: Where To Buy Quality Ceramics?

    hi guys,

    i was checking out some catering shops around for some food grade cleaning products and stumbled upon some ACF tulip cups - 150ml and white. this was at Hotel Agencies in Nicholson St., Fitzroy, Melbourne. snapped up a few for myself but they seem to have a bit of stock. twas one left on the shelf but after i asked the lady came out with 2 boxes of them. cost is about $2.50 a cup. not sure if thats about the right price...


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    Re: Where To Buy Quality Ceramics?

    Are you sure you didnt get Australian Fine China which isnt ACF? I thought ACFs were a lot more than that.

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    I was pretty sure that the ACF ceramics were up around the $8 - $9 per cup.


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    Just had a look on their website and they stock a lot of AFC...

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    Re: Where To Buy Quality Ceramics?

    hmm. looks like i got afc (aust fine china - not ACF that i posted previously). arg. apologies, seems like im dyslexic :|

    but having said that. its not bad. i like the size - 5oz. / 150ml. seems like a perfect shape for single shot espresso milk based drinks. but heat retention may not be very good as the walls on the cup are thin. cheap. but may not be to your liking if youre a snob (which im sure we all are :P)

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    Sizes and looks are good, but I have heard from a few coffee nutters out there that they really dont hold the heat that well and tend not to bounce when dropped... Not saying that the ACF ware dose bounce all the time. I have personally seen an ACF espresso cup bounce along about 10 metres without a chip in it.

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    Re: Where to buy ACF cups?

    Quote Originally Posted by Flo link=1172142485/15#24 date=1173144631
    If people are interested, I can post up on CS to let everyone know when theyre in.
    Count me in Luca!! [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]
    We just got our delivery of ACFs this week, just in time for the barista competition. Once all the excitement is over, well work out the price and start stocking the shelves at First Pour; hopefully they will be ready to sell next Saturday.

    Cheers,

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    Re: Where To Buy Quality Ceramics?

    Let me know... ;)

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    Re: Where To Buy Quality Ceramics?

    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    Hey Snobs, does anyone know of anywhere (pref. in syd.) that sells ACF cups as singular units?
    Everywhere I have looked so far only sells them as a half doz set.
    Which is fine, but seeing as I want 70ml espresso cups, 160ml tulips and 220 or 280ml bowls, its going to end up breaking the bank if I have to buy 6 of each. :-/

    Alternatively, is there anyone out there that wants to split a set of any of the above (in white or red)?
    Thanks.

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