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    Bean Bay freight costs

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Sorry mods if this is posted in the wrong place. I scratched my head for a while tryna figure out where I should ask this.

    Currently I buy my beans from the local coffee boutique where I bought my Silvia etc.

    I buy what they call the "bean Scene blend" which is also what they use to make the coffees they sell.
    Its a very nice blend, although I have a fairly uneducated palate, but am learning every day.

    Anyway I wanted to try some "Espresso Wow" from the bean bay here but noticed the only postal method listed is Australia post express satchels for $10
    That kinda makes 500grams of beans a fairly expensive purchase.

    Is there any other less expensive shipping method available?

    For example Ive posted musical items that weigh 2 or 3 kgs and cost cuppla hundred dollars via insured registered post and it only cost about 9 bucks.

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    Re: Bean Bay freight costs

    gronk62,

    There are other "cheaper" ways for the buyer.... but they entail a lot more mucking about and time wasting for the provider..... as you would know with registered post (and I know very well dispatching Pullman tampers, baskets etc)...

    Basically Andy would make so little dispatching 500gms.... even just popping an order for that little in a prepaid express post bag (about the least time consuming way to send an order) would still cost him more in time that his profit margin.....

    You can fit more in one of those bags - for the same postage cost - and clearly that is the expectation!

    Andys Bean Bay is a business..... a very generous business where we get great value for money - but a business no less! And businesses cant afford to lose money.... or they wont exist any more :(.

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    Re: Bean Bay freight costs

    If you want to save on postage costs, wait for the next bean bay and get it sent to a pick up point in VIC. Its probably the most economical way of getting small batches from CS.

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    Yep I understand and appreciate all that.

    Unfortunately Im the only one in my home drinkin it (my wife drinks that instant muck )
    ..so 500 grams lasts me a good cuppla weeks. If I buy more than that itll be goin stale before I drink it.

    Looks like I might hafta start thinkin about havin a crack at roastin my own

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    Quote Originally Posted by YeeZa link=1218704975/0#2 date=1218707643
    If you want to save on postage costs, wait for the next bean bay and get it sent to a pick up point in VIC. Its probably the most economical way of getting small batches from CS.
    Ill have a read through the bean bay threads to find out about pick up points.

    I live near Warragul, 120 km east of Melbourne CBD

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    Looks like the closest is Abbotsford which is over an hours drive and about $30 + for fuel.

    Oh well, looks like I gotta stick to the local shop :(

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    Re: Bean Bay freight costs

    gronk62
    Give roasting a shot, its the best way to go to ensure you have fresh coffee when you need it.

    Mal

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    Re: Bean Bay freight costs

    Posting green beans is cheaper than you driving 120km.
    Roasting your own will then start saving you money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundergod link=1218704975/0#7 date=1218711588
    Posting green beans is cheaper than you driving 120km.
    Roasting your own will then start saving you money.
    I have an old Panasonic bread maker in the cupboard that I could butcher.

    Ive toyed with the idea of a stainless steel dog bowl, whisk and a heat gun.

    I went into several shops today looking at popcorn machines.

    Trouble is I dunno if I have the motivation to be bothered muckin about roasting my own coffee. It all sounds a bit like "work".

    Maybe if I stood next to someone while they did their own roast instead of readin about it here Id get more of an urge to have a crack myself.

    Anybody in Melbournes eastern suburbs wanna give me a lesson? :D

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    How often do you come up berwick way?
    I can show you how easy it is to roast in a popper or corretto, although my skills in the popper are not as good as i havent roasted this way for quite some time as the corretto give much better results and a much larger quantity.

    Mal

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    Ah hmm, theres more than one way to get freshly roasted beans delivered to your door, and thats from one of the sponsors on the left hand side of the page. *

    For example, most of what I sell comes in a minimum of 500gm, packed in two one-way valve bags, for $15.00, and a 1kg pack costs $28.00. Either way, the courier charge is $8.00. The total cost is still less than a lot of places charge per kilo and you can always split it with a buddy.

    Sure, its not as cheap as home roasting, but then again, professionally roasted beans arent in the same league! *::)


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    Quote Originally Posted by bolb link=1218704975/0#9 date=1218712407
    How often do you come up berwick way?
    I can show you how easy it is to roast in a popper or corretto, although my skills in the popper are not as good as i havent roasted this way for quite some time as the corretto give much better results and a much larger quantity.

    Mal
    During the wet winter weather I dont ride my motorcycle much but as soon as I get a fine day and some spare time I hit the road. I bought my bike at New World Honda Narre Warren.
    Anyway a nice ride through the hills with a stopover at Berwick for a lesson, and hopefully a coffee :D, would be a triffic way to spend a sunny saturday or sunday.

    Thankyou for your kind offer Mal. Ill be in touch sometime when the weather breaks

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    Cool no problem.
    Just let us know. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuppacoffee link=1218704975/0#10 date=1218712584
    Ah hmm, theres more than one way to get freshly roasted beans delivered to your door, and thats from one of the sponsors on the left hand side of the page.

    For example, most of what I sell comes in a minimum of 500gm, packed in two one-way valve bags, for $15.00, and a 1kg pack costs $28.00. Either way, the courier charge is $8.00. The total cost is still less than a lot of places charge per kilo and you can always split it with a buddy.

    Sure, its not as cheap as home roasting, but then again, professionally roasted beans arent in the same league! ::)
    Thanks for that. Yeah I have clicked on most of those links and checked out em out. :)

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    Look on the bright side, when I grew up in Warragul (around 20-30 years ago) a Cappuccino made with instant was all you could get :( At least there was a HUGE improvement last time I was there :)

    I am in the same boat this end of the state with Coffee consumption of 1-1.5 kg/month /i guess. So some Green and mad scientist contraptions is looking like a good option with a little Brown mixed in for reference :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by gronk62 link=1218704975/0#5 date=1218710119
    Looks like the closest is Abbotsford which is over an hours drive and about $30 + for fuel.
    Its always funny to read posts that mention the fuel costs but forget that the supplier has to pay them too. *The "free freight" drop-off each month to Veneziano costs me about $30 in fuel too but is done as a service to local CSrs because Im a good guy *
    ;) *

    The Express Post satchel that you buy for $10 in BeanBay (PS: it will cost you $10.90 from the post office!) has to come from the post office (fuel costs) and get taken back to the post office (fuel costs). *The beans need to be roasted (more fuel costs) etc etc. *Then Australia Post has to move the satchel around the country and they cop plenty of fuel costs to do that too. *$10 delivery for up to 3kg is a bargain really.

    Australia Post dropped the 500g express post option and only have the standard untraceable service that we choose not to use. *There are other cheaper and very unreliable courier options that we have used in the past and they have restrictions on where they deliver, can be a day late picking the items up and can take up to a week to deliver them.... all this for a $2 saving which I dont think is worth our or your trouble.

    Express Post is overnight to nearly everywhere and a couple of days at worst so your beans arrive fresh and fast and we loose less than 1 in 1000 items sent (the courier loss was WAY higher than that).

    As mentioned above, the best way is to load-up your satchel so the per/kg rate is better. *You might find that you have a couple of friends or workmates that want to share an order (lots of CSrs do that too) and that makes a difference ...or just buy green and roast your own to suit your consumption.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Freeman link=1218704975/0#15 date=1218786883
    As mentioned above, the best way is to load-up your satchel so the per/kg rate is better. You might find that you have a couple of friends or workmates that want to share an order (lots of CSrs do that too) and that makes a difference
    Thats what I would definitely be doin if I knew anybody who drank real real coffee.
    Everyone I know drinks that instant crap :)

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    Hey Gronk (thats a line usually reserved for use at work *;D).
    You might be able to start a one man education program to wean them off the instant. Your wife would be a good place to start, try her with a mocha (theres not many people who dont like chocolate) then go from there.
    Another alternative which might be frowned upon, is to buy up big and stick some in the freezer until you need it. I used this method before I started home roasting when I lived in the middle of nowhere (360km to the nearest roaster *:().
    Roasting at home isnt as hard work as you might think, and it can be quite fun too. It also gives you a sense of achievement when you look at your creation.
    Good luck with whatever you decide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovey link=1218704975/0#17 date=1218790415
    Hey Gronk,
    You might be able to start a one man education program to wean them off the instant.
    Ha! Gotta get em to outlay the money for grinders and espresso machines first. I reckon itd be an uphill battle out here in "hicksville" :D

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovey link=1218704975/0#17 date=1218790415
    Your wife would be a good place to start, try her with a mocha (theres not many people who dont like chocolate) then go from there.
    Oh Ive made her quite a few lattes and she says she likes em but is happy to continue drinking instant coz its "quick and simple to make".
    Theres no way Id let her near my coffee gear anyway. She has a little trouble boiling water sometimes


    Quote Originally Posted by Lovey link=1218704975/0#17 date=1218790415
    Another alternative which might be frowned upon, is to buy up big and stick some in the freezer until you need it. I used this method before I started home roasting when I lived in the middle of nowhere (360km to the nearest roaster :().
    Tried freezing coffee once. Never again. Made it taste kinda weird


    Quote Originally Posted by Lovey link=1218704975/0#17 date=1218790415
    Roasting at home isnt as hard work as you might think, and it can be quite fun too. It also gives you a sense of achievement when you look at your creation.
    Good luck with whatever you decide.
    Bolb has kindly offered to give me a bit of a training session on how to roast. Ill see if the roasting bug bites after Ive seen it done. At the moment it all sounds a bit too much like work but I may change my opinion after watching someone do it :)




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