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    weight of my puck

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    I just weighted my puck. It was 29g from a single basket. Is it too much? I want to ask what is the ideal weight of puck for both single and double basket?

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    Re: weight of my puck

    If you weighted your puck after a shot it would not have much relevance due to water content. If it is prior to a shot the weight you have would indicate it is a very large basket. An average double depending on the machine is 18 - 21grms. I think I stand to be corrected.

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    Re: weight of my puck

    So if i want to be consistance on my does, how can i do it?
    Also, is that mean a single basket should use 9g of coffee?

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    First off what type of machine have you got - there is a lot of different size baskets out there. *I havent weighted my puck as I dose the same way every time and try to tamp consistently. *I would imagine that I get the same weight on most occasion as my coffee taste is consistent depending on the beans. *Single baskets range from 9 - 14grms (again I may be wrong but there are several threads about
    baskets *such as these http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1211780411
    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1200754258


    As I stated previously I am not an expert on the weights required. *Some CSers do weight their beans prior to grinding and it works for them. *I normally havent got enough patience *:-[ for this so I am a grind and go type of person. *From practice I can usually get within a bean or two of the right amount when I pour the beans in and judge the amount in the grinder. *Sometimes I get it wrong.

    I normally fill the basket to a slight mound then I tap it on the tamp mat to reduce it down then I put more coffee in level it with a spatula (some here use fingers others use dosing tools) then I tamp. I find this is consistent for me. There are several dosing methods. Another is to fill the basket give a light tamp then fill and tamp again, I have read on a thread here (I cant find it at the moment) that this method can lead to channeling. Hope this helps a little.

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    Re: weight of my puck

    im using sunbeam em6910

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    Re: weight of my puck

    I just did a check - I use 21/22gms in the double basket and about 14/15grms in the single. I never as a rule use the single basket in normal day to day usage as I like a strong coffee. :o

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    Re: weight of my puck

    I believe the Sunbeam has larger than normal baskets, or at least the first version did.

    Generally speaking single baskets hold between 6-10grams of freshly ground coffee,
    doubles 14-18grams and some can be dosed up to 20 or 21 grams.
    Proper triple baskets from 21grams upwards.

    As noted previously, weighing after extraction is affected by water content, and the amount of ground coffee put into the basket is the most useful weight to check if you want to weigh anything.

    Most of us here tend to avoid single baskets and use larger doubles,
    Sunbeam seem to have allowed for that to some extent ;)

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    Re: weight of my puck

    Weigh your PF before putting in grinds.
    Do your usual dose/distribute/tamp.
    Weigh the PF again. The difference is the grammage that we refer to here on CS - the amount of freshly ground coffee in the PF.

    You can use this technique every morning to learn until you get a consistent grammage happening with your dose/distribute/tamp method.

    A single starts at 7g, a double at 14g and a triple at 21g. Depends on who you ask, but all begin around that level give or take a gram.

    With my VBM Super machine and the beans Im currently fond of, I use a 17g dose in my double basket. If I change the beans, itll range between 16 to 18g depending on what tastes best. I also happen to shoot that 17g shot as a ristretto. ;) Its all personal taste.

    EDIT: I seem to somehow have missed reading Bullitts post right above *:D

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    Re: weight of my puck

    That is exactly how I achieved the results above. I weighted the PF prior to filling/tamping and then weighted it after dosing. As stated the results va5ry a little due to bean, tamping, grind or the way you were standing [smiley=cheesy.gif].

    I did not overdose the baskets. So as Bullit stated Sunbeam seem to have gone for XXL sizes in their baskets. Which fits me perfectly. ;D

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    Re: weight of my puck

    ok~~I did an experiment today. I weighted my portfilter with a single basket inserted. It weighted 501g. And then I felt the basket (does it up like a small mountain, level it) and weighted it again. It weighted 517g. Thats mean Ive used 16g of coffe for a single basket. Its almost twice the amount of a normal single basket. I did it twice and i got the same result. Does anyone know y? Or it is the sunbeam basket is *larger?

    One thing which is gd for this experiment is I know my dosing is gd and consistance. (Im happy with my dosing now)

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    Re: weight of my puck

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    From reading other threads over the last year, it would appear Sunbeam have larger baskets that some machines. However the double basket for the sunbeam is the same size as the synessco basket sold by some of our wonderful sponsors.

    I wouldnt worry to much if your coffee is how you like it.

    At 16 grams in the single I would consider that to be up dosing. I try not to do this with the sunbeam as it caused some issues with water/grounds escaping around the PF with my machine. I try to make sure that the coffee is between 3 and 5mls below the rim of the Basket.

    However if it works for you that is great - coffee is an individual thing. Most of the examples in this web site are of what has worked for other people - however experimentation will discover what works for each individual. Without experimentation nobody advances their knowledge. (Deep) ;D




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