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    Well, finally gave the machine a run. As my tamper is still on the way, I had to make do with a plastic cup :D. And using some Santos Premium Roast Coffee (pre ground in a bag thats been sitting in the cupboard from a Christmas hamper from 12 months ago).

    I filled the holder, compacted the coffee as best I could, and ran the thing. Allowed it to run until the twin streams changed colour from a beautiful creamy chocolate look to a pasty watery fluid. The surface had a nice smooth cream look (I gather this is the crema?), so I just added a small measure of sugar and tasted with some trepidation. Surprisingly, quite a reasonable tasting drop has ensured that I will be continuing on.

    Im certainly looking forward to reading and learning as much as I can from you folks in here. And the Home Barista course Ive already booked with Venezianos ::)

    In the meantime, Ill be making do with my leaking old machine.

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    Re: First shot in anger

    hi
    The crema is the oil of the bean. visble by using presssure and hot water. It holds all the good of espresso. take the cup away from the pour before you see the shaky light (pasty watery fluid)
    aim to find the blend and method to pull the shot that suits your taste without sugar. It can be done. Filter your water.
    I have had the priveledge and on occassion a bloody nightmare over some years to use and abuse, pull apart and resurect some great machines. Literally hundreds. Whilst I can not grade the MOST important ingredient to making a great cup of coffee - beans, machines, barista, environment or vessel?
    I can suggest the most noticeable differences have been due to a good grinder and *a great barista.
    I have seen ordinary beans put through throw away machines yet ground in a good clean sharp bladed grinder, tamped and extracted by a caring barista to produce a pretty good cup
    cheers

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    Im only new to making coffee at home on an EM6910. I chose this machine because of what I read on this site. A valuable resource. Its allowed me to learn a lot and make pretty good coffee for a low cost. Im looking forward to upgrading later down the track as my skills improve (and my bank balance hopefully rises haha).

    The only advice I can offer as a n00b to this is to be patient and really try to just make small changes at a time as you go. Work hard obtaining a consistent dose and tamp trying to get it the same each time, then work on your grinder :)

    Eventually making great coffee will become a pleasure rather than an experimental chore. Learning how to get it right is half the fun, pulling an excellent shot might make you do a little dance in front of your machine :)

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    Re: First shot in anger

    Quote Originally Posted by 6A6663776E627575623731070 link=1233238450/0#0 date=1233238450
    Well, finally gave the machine a run. As my tamper is still on the way, I had to make do with a plastic cup *:D. And using some Santos Premium Roast Coffee (pre ground in a bag thats been sitting in the cupboard from a Christmas hamper from 12 months ago). *

    I filled the holder, compacted the coffee as best I could, and ran the thing. Allowed it to run until the twin streams *changed colour from a beautiful creamy chocolate look to a pasty watery fluid. *The surface had a nice smooth cream look (I gather this is the crema?), so I just added a small measure of sugar and tasted with some trepidation. Surprisingly, quite a reasonable *tasting drop has ensured that I will be continuing on.

    Im certainly looking forward to reading and learning as much as I can from you folks in here. And the Home Barista course Ive already booked with Venezianos *::) *

    In the meantime, Ill be making do with my leaking old machine. * *
    I am totally surprised that coffee 12 monts old would give you any crema.... Unless your using a pressurized PF. :-?

    FRESH Beans with any system is a MUSt... 8-)

    Drop me a PM... *I am at Wooloowin (5 nim at worse) and should be able to drop in and show you some basics etc.

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    whoa, free training from AM! go go go! haha

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    Hey, thanks for the helpful feedback fellas. A reality check after the first reasonable drop, follow ups resembled something you would get from the ground and brewed beans of a mongolian alpaca :o
    ;D But just this last night, Ive started having a play with the machine at work, some big Italian beastie. Using the ground product they keep in the fridge, Cafe Di Bella or something like that, I was able to make two quite reasonable drops (milk heated in the microwave), so Im going to keep having a shot at that. Theryve got a Bezzera grinder as well, so when Im a little more familiar with what Im doing I may well give it a go.


    As far as home goes, Ive got my grinder on layby, a Breville BarAroma BCG450. $148 at BigW, Im happy to use it as a starting point as a basic conical burr, and am looking to pick it up in a month or so. I figure I might as well go the whole hog, so have packaged a popcorn maker with it.

    AM, thanks for the kind offer of assistance mate. PM sent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 4B4742564F435454431610260 link=1233238450/5#5 date=1233343738
    As far as home goes, Ive got my grinder on layby, a Breville BarAroma BCG450. $148 at BigW, Im happy to use it as a starting point as a basic conical burr, and am looking to pick it up in a month or so. I figure I might as well go the whole hog, so have packaged a popcorn maker with it.
    Can I suggest that you cancel that layby and get a Sunbeam em0450 instead. While there are a few people who have apparently been able to modify the Breville to get an acceptable grind for espresso, the Sunbeam conical burr grinders (em0450 and em0480) are better grinders. In fact ive seen it said by people here that they are the minimum grinder that you should get. The Sunbeam 0450 has a rrp of 159, so it should be about the same cost as the Breville youre planning on getting.
    (Theres a fair bit of discussion about the Sunbeam 0480 in the grinders section, if you want to have a read up. The 0450 and 0480 are identical internally, they differ in their case construction and a few other small factors).

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    Re: First shot in anger

    I agree.
    If you had a choice between the Breville and the Sunbeam grinders for the same price, the Sunbeam is the go.
    In fact, I dont recommend the Breville at all.

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    Re: First shot in anger

    What all the other guys (and gals if any) said, mum had a breville and it wasnt as capable as the Sunbeam blade grinder I got as a going away pressie from a 6 month uni training program...

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    Re: First shot in anger

    Thanks for the feedback (again), fellas.

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    Re: First shot in anger

    I paid $150 for my EM0480. go to your store and haggle.

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    Re: First shot in anger

    Hi madpierre06, and welcome. What machine are you using to extract your coffee? If you can add it to your tag-line in your profile it helps people target their responses/info to your machine where they can.

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    Re: First shot in anger

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77504A5B5252575A5B4E4A563E0 link=1233238450/11#11 date=1233654936
    Hi madpierre06, and welcome. What machine are you using to extract your coffee? If you can add it to your tag-line in your profile it helps people target their responses/info to your machine where they can.
    Um...dont know how to admit this, but unknowingly fell into a Krups 3000 prior to finding this forum. Having perused a few threads here, I have already planned its early demise (this is NOT a confession prior to the crime and cannot be used against me in a court of law) and Kindly Kev has already fuelled my intent to replace with a sweeter machine. Ill be working out my grinder first, then look to a machine to match up with it.

    With the help of a fellow CSer, Im going to do a crash course on the Krups, follow up with the Home Barista course, then get my new toys.



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