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    Eco-friendly takeaway cups

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    A while ago (6 months?) there was a thread on here about re-usable takeaway cups that were going to be released soon... the main plusses for this product was that it felt good (to hold), and apparently did not taint the taste.

    I have spent about 10mins trying to search for it but I dont have enough keywords remembered to be able to find it. Can someone point me to it or better still tell me what happened to it (from memory there was a web-site link to it too). Are they now available? It was white/aqua in colour (if that helps), from memory.

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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    I think theyre called KeepCup. Living in fear of the mods, Im not game to post a link, but google keep cup brought it up as the top result.

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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    Quote Originally Posted by 74767A72727C7B66150 link=1253061388/1#1 date=1253066150
    I think theyre called KeepCup
    Yup thats the one I was talking about. Thanks!

    Anybody have any experience in using these? Thoughts?

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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    I have heard about them the first time!
    Can you explain what are they?
    A pic would be fine. If its allowed here. :(

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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    I bought a couple of the cups referred to by Acog. They are pretty cool, but have not used them too often

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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    Theres a nice ceramic takeaway mug from Think Geek. I get a few weird looks walking into work with a mug of coffee already in my hand.

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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    Im interested to know what Baristas think of them. is it annoying having people hand over a cup and ask for a dbl fw? I would imagine it disrupt their system.

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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    Nope if you are set up right it shouldnt be a problem work flow wise provided you could take the cup of the customer heat it up and then pour coffee into it. I would however be worried on hygiene side of thing. If they dont clean their cup properly (and alot wont) and they get sick from drinking one of your coffees you are legally responsible *>:(. Besides that:
    A) I dont think they would want to wait for their cup to be washed. B) If you had to wash each cup individually it would slow things down.

    They are a nice Idea but I dont think they really solve anything.

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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    Quote Originally Posted by 4D61727469616C5F4D6F6E6B6579000 link=1253061388/7#7 date=1253157892
    They are a nice Idea but I dont think they really solve anything.
    You really need a critical mass using them to make a difference, and just like those green bags for groceries, most people will forget to bring them.

    As for the hygeine side of things, Im sure you could put a disclaimer somewhere to cover the cafe. The Barista could also of course, refuse to use it if they thought it was too dirty.

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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    Quote Originally Posted by 2E2C20282826213C4F0 link=1253061388/8#8 date=1253158720
    Im sure you could put a disclaimer somewhere to cover the cafe.
    Been out of the that side of things for a while now so probably changed, but a disclaimer never had much weight in a court room.

    I think its changed now, but cant say for sure.

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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    Quote Originally Posted by 6F6D61696967607D0E0 link=1253061388/8#8 date=1253158720
    As for the hygeine side of things, Im sure you could put a disclaimer somewhere to cover the cafe. The Barista could also of course, refuse to use it if they thought it was too dirty.
    Over here unless the cup was first washed by the cafe before being used to serve in the business is not only risking loosing everything in a suit from the customer but also a huge fine from the health department. They would even be risking permanent closure for repeated offenses.

    As nice a thought as these cups are unless the laws are changed/different there I dont see them catching on.


    Java "You dont want to mess with the Health Department!" phile

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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    For me, the reason I want them is that I make 2 cups (one each for the Missus and I) in the mornings to take to work (dont have time to have it at home) every day - and I buy takeaway cups/caps for this purpose. I figure at a cost savings of $0.60 a day... payback will be fairly quick! ...as long as it tastes OK. I could just buy a re-usable mug from Kmart / the servo etc but for me I dont like the metallic or plastic taste that comes with these. I am hoping the keepcup is a cut above... hence the reason for the original post.

    Heres a picture (for someone that requested it above) - they come in many colour combinations.
    As you can see it looks "just like any other re-usable cup"... but meant to have eco-credentials (in the manufacture/disposal processes), standard sizing (S/M/L) for baristas and better taste (?)


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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    Hi all

    Unfortunately the ring around the middle is silicone. This may not be biodegradable. The rest of it is "recyclable polypropylene". I infer from that that is is recyclable and not that its actually using recycled polypropylene. Its very hard to decide whats best when there are now paper cups that are using 45% less paper than before versus recyclable plastics that came from oil versus plastics from oil from bio sources etc. The situation as to how to weight up and balance the resource usage from ground to cup and back to ground versus energy to produce, distribute and recycle is so complicated that the information for me to make a decision just isnt there.

    (I have my coffee always seated at a cafe in a ceramic cup. If its near closing time and they only offer a takeaway cup I forgo the espresso. )

    Mike

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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    This is going to make me have a closer look at some regulars mugs, as they tend to bring them with them everyday for me to use instead of our takeaway cups. :o

    Time to get busy with washing them haha.

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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    Ive just ordered one tonight, based on this thread.

    If you can wait a week or so, Ill give my thoughts. I figured for the price, it was worth giving it a go because I make my take-away in the morning to go to work with me.

    The only issue I have a bit of a misgiving about is heat retention - the Bodum Double Walled Stainless Steel travel mug that Im currently using keeps my coffee hot from about 7.00am until about 10.30am, so that will be my main comparison point but, if worst comes to worst, it will make a reasonable cup to put in the car to take on the two hour trip up to Taree occasionally for Pete & I.

    Cheers
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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    My two Keep Cups turned up in the mail today and Ive put them to the test. *I ordered the medium size.

    Size - Great: *Although need two shots instead of one (coming from a girl that used to drink 1/4 strength, my tolerances have gone through the roof!)

    Taste - Great: no added flavour to the coffee. *Better than in a stainless steel travel cup in that regard.

    Looks - Great: Pretty speccy looking!

    Heat Retention - Average: The only letdown with the cup, in my opinion. As stated about, the Bodum lets me sit on a coffee thats still hot for about 3.5 hours. *I made two coffees, one I drank immediately and one I left for an hour, sealed, before I drank it which is realistically what I do in the morning (by the time I drop off kids and get to work, theres about an hours lag between making and drinking). *After an hour in the Keep Cup it was only lukewarm.

    Summary -*A great solution if you want to drink a coffee on the way to work on the train or drive to somewhere specific, but not one to use if you want to make a takeaway for work and sip it sparingly over a couple of hours.

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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    Im using Tupperware - No taste added, Good Heat retention - Make coffee at 4AM leave in the car during hour swim/gym and sip on 40min drive to work and finish and usually 6:30AM mark with drinkable coffee.

    Only problem is the sizing - too big for a (my) machine - need to repour (not great).

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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    Quote Originally Posted by 163127352D5E0 link=1253061388/15#15 date=1253682298
    My two Keep Cups turned up in the mail today and Ive put them to the test. *I ordered the medium size.
    Hi Di, thanks for putting your thoughts up. I am still waiting for the Large cups to appear on the site. I was told it would be there last Monday when I emailed them but still waiting.

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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    I ordered my Keepcups via the site. I have been using them for about a week now. Thoughts:

    1) Communication was OK from the seller... (3 out of 5)
    2) Postage time was OK: *although there was a 3 working day (5 days in total) delay in posting even though payment was done via PayPal. (4 out 5). Item arrived in 6 days total.
    3) Looks/Quality, it looks a lot cheaper than what the price paid would suggest. The cup bit is basically a plastic picnic glass that you could pickup for say $2 for a set of 4 at Hot Dollar (well it looks/feels like that). The top is a bit more sophisticated.

    Still, my wife could not believe I paid $36 incl postage for the 2 cups... (just quietly - so did I to be honest, but I wasnt going to admit that *::)) i.e. she thought it was way too expensive.

    I personally dont like the "feel" of the cup on my mouth when drinking - feels really "fat" around your lips. Perhaps that is just a matter of getting used to it, coming from a takeaway paper cup/plastic lid drinking background. I do like the little swinging arm that acts a plug to seal the drinking hole.

    The cup has hardly any thermal capacity. Not double-walled or anything, thermal performance is about the same (or less even) of a good takeaway cup.

    I have put them into the dishwasher (top shelf as instructed) a few times and have my doubts about how they will hold up over time already. The plastic is starting to look a bit roughed up. Time will tell I guess. There is a 1 year warranty though.
    (2 out of 5)
    4) Taste test: I guess this is what matters most. No actual plastic taint noticed, but for some reason it still psychologically "tastes" plasticky. I think your brain/lips know that you are holding on to a plastic cup; that cant be helped I guess. Alot better than other plastic/stainless steel cups I have tried. (4 out of 5)
    5) Eco properties: Cant comment but assuming they are better for the Earth than paper cups, as the manufacturer suggests.

    Conclusion: Despite price, I am still overall "quite happy", but I dont think I would be replacing them in a hurry if they were to come under a bus and probably just go back to takeaway cups. My wife is already wanting me to go back to takeaway cups but I want to persevere a bit more. (we are not the biggest "greenies" in the world mind you ;), but the thought of buying an eco-friendly alternative did attract me at first) *

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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    Quote Originally Posted by 29223522212C3A430 link=1253061388/18#18 date=1254949518
    my wife could not believe I paid $36 incl postage
    EDIT: It was actually around $34. Just found the receipt.

    Quote Originally Posted by 29223522212C3A430 link=1253061388/18#18 date=1254949518
    I do like the little swinging arm that acts a plug to seal the drinking hole.
    EDIT2: I noticed, 1.5 weeks on that the plastic arm is now lifting and doesnt seal as well anymore... :-(
    I hit a small bump in the road this morning and coffee splashed out into the car even though the arm was over the sipping hole.


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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    sounds like you may be better off with BioPak t/a cups javaboy.

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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    Quote Originally Posted by 123F3E352F322F225B0 link=1253061388/20#20 date=1255411596
    sounds like you may be better off with BioPak t/a cups javaboy.
    Thanks just checked them out. Looks good.

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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    I bought two of these and am not particularly impressed. Buy yourself a lifetimes supply of paper cups + lids instead...

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    Keepcup reuseable takeaway coffee cups

    I picked up one of these on the weekend from campos and felt it was worth a mention - very impressive aussie invention! These cups were designed by baristas for baristas it would seem. They are 8oz or 12oz size (standard volumes for regular or large) and fit under standard group handles. Unlike other reusable cups ive tried these ones dont seem to retain the smell of the last cup of coffee, which is great.

    Cost me 10 bucks and i got the first drink free. Cant say thats not good value for money! They look and feel great and the cup is just really well made.

    Worth checking out guys:

    http://www.keepcup.com.au

    Could this be a good little addition to beanbay? One with the CS logo. Just a thought. :)



    My variant from campos:


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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    They are apparently barista designed - yet the plastic base has a tendancy to slip out from under the group handle when set on an angle. This is only an issue with the 12oz cup though. The 8oz works well as it sits flat.
    Very few customers mark the cups with their orders or understand that the cups have pour lines in them too. So a fair bit of educating needs to happen before they start to fit comfortably into cafe operations.
    Its a nice idea, but does complicates things when you start getting critical mass. Operating a purely take away outlet we do 50+ byo cups a day - and it really cuts down your bench space when it gets busy.

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    Re: Eco-friendly takeaway cups

    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    We use a good quality three-walled insulated takeaway cup for on the way to work but there is obviously quite a bit of wastage.
    Ive seen these keepcups around the place but the bright colours gave it a feel of a kids water cup rather than something id want to drink coffee out of.

    If the technology is good and the design is tweaked id definitely give the keepcups a go.



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