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    Coffee, as you like it.

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    Further to my rant in another area, just happened to come across this article, lot of truth in it.
    http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/...-in-my-coffee/

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    Re: Coffee, as you like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 754940584D2C0 link=1257286656/0#0 date=1257286656
    Further to my rant in another area, just happened to come across this article, lot of truth in it.
    http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/...-in-my-coffee/

    Cheers,

    Jon. :)
    Well if the other post is correct and Bar Italia is the focus it may change *;)

    I understand why some like their suggar... *But people also need to understand that because they have always put 3 HEAPED suggars in their instant because its bitter... * That with a good coffee, they may only need ONE.... Could also be healther for them *;)

    Had an older person over the other day and they did not drink / finish the coffee I made for them..

    Their comment was it was too sweet... *When I asked, they said they put in 3 suggers. I asked why ( I did tell them that they may not need to even add suggar) and they said they have always had 3 suggars in coffee and one in tea... *That is the way they had always had it..

    Change for some is not so easy...

    I said to my wife, that next time I will over extract and then with 3 suggars they would be happy *::)

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    Re: Coffee, as you like it.

    I thought this comment was funny:

    even the best barista can’t completely control the taste. It apparently varies with water and air temps and all sorts of truly subtle cosmic factors, eg. the ratio of BlackBerry’s to iPhones in the immediate vicinity etc.

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    Re: Coffee, as you like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 4E61686A7D426E616E686A626A617B0F0 link=1257286656/1#1 date=1257288629
    Had an older person over the other day and they did not drink / finish the coffee I made for them..

    Their comment was it was too sweet...When I asked, they said they put in 3 suggers. I asked why ( I did tell them that they may not need to even add suggar) and they said they have always had 3 suggars in coffee and one in tea...That is the way they had always had it..
    Morning AM, had I been in your shoes after establishing the drink was too sweet for the customer I would have offered to make another and suggest less sugar, as it is I suspect there wont be a next time for that particular person.
    As much as we hate to hear it, the customer is always right, and as long as theyre paying the bill they will remain so.

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    Re: Coffee, as you like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 68545D4550310 link=1257286656/3#3 date=1257290929
    Morning AM, had I been in your shoes after establishing the drink was too sweet for the customer I would have offered to make another and suggest less sugar, as it is I suspect there wont be a next time for that particular person.
    As much as we hate to hear it, the customer is always right, and as long as theyre paying the bill they will remain so.
    I think this particular person was visiting AMs house, so technically he was a non-paying customer anyway ;).

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    Re: Coffee, as you like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 04273E2D31480 link=1257286656/4#4 date=1257291607
    Quote Originally Posted by 68545D4550310 link=1257286656/3#3 date=1257290929
    Morning AM, had I been in your shoes after establishing the drink was too sweet for the customer I would have offered to make another and suggest less sugar, as it is I suspect there wont be a next time for that particular person.
    As much as we hate to hear it, the customer is always right, and as long as theyre paying the bill they will remain so.
    I think this particular person was visiting AMs house, so technically he was a non-paying customer anyway *;).
    Ahhhh, I see, I assumed he was running a cafe. :-[

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    Re: Coffee, as you like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 08343D2530510 link=1257286656/5#5 date=1257291844
    Quote Originally Posted by 04273E2D31480 link=1257286656/4#4 date=1257291607
    Quote Originally Posted by 68545D4550310 link=1257286656/3#3 date=1257290929
    Morning AM, had I been in your shoes after establishing the drink was too sweet for the customer I would have offered to make another and suggest less sugar, as it is I suspect there wont be a next time for that particular person.
    As much as we hate to hear it, the customer is always right, and as long as theyre paying the bill they will remain so.
    I think this particular person was visiting AMs house, so technically he was a non-paying customer anyway *;).
    Ahhhh, I see, I assumed he was running a cafe. :-[
    When they visit my place it is always at a cost... *Some times to me ... Sometimes to them *:D

    Thus they are still a customer... But maybe not in a typical $$$ way of thinking.

    I tend to have a Quality focus... Thus any one who comes to me for somthing is a customer *;D But their level of how correct they are comes down to HOW much they are paying ;)

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    Re: Coffee, as you like it.

    I will defend the business owners right to set the parameters of their business, if they dont serve milk in their coffee then go somewhere else that does. So the business owner is narrowing their potential customer base significantly but that is their business not mine.

    I dont run my business like that and I never will but I congratulate the people out their having a go with that kind of passion and integrity.

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    Re: Coffee, as you like it.

    You dont buy steak at the greengrocers do you?

    Its called specialisation.

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    Re: Coffee, as you like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3B353837203637590 link=1257286656/7#7 date=1257301334
    I will defend the business owners right to set the parameters of their business, if they dont serve milk in their coffee then go somewhere else that does. So the business owner is narrowing their potential customer base significantly but that is their business not mine.

    I dont run my business like that and I never will but I congratulate the people out their having a go with that kind of passion and integrity.
    I hear what you say Moto and tend to agree, however if customers cant get what they want they most certainly will go elsewhere and in doing so will spread the word, of course ultimately this leads to a diminishing customer base with obvious results :(
    Have seen a few idealists with these attitudes open restaurants in Adelaide over the years, they tend not to be around for long. ;)

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    Re: Coffee, as you like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3408150E040512070F04600 link=1257286656/8#8 date=1257305518
    You dont buy steak at the greengrocers do you?

    Its called specialisation.
    Supermarkets TG thats where most of us shop and of course the steak and apples do end up going through the same checkout.
    We had a butcher in town bought out the fruit and veg store next door last year and combined them, didnt last long, he dumped the f&v within a couple of months and went back to being a butcher. ;D

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    Re: Coffee, as you like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 5C60697164050 link=1257286656/10#10 date=1257310479
    Supermarkets TG thats where most of us shop
    That is a statement that may apply in a country town like Moonta, but in the cities this is not the case.
    More and more people are purchasing from specialty stores where they seek service and a friendly smile. Like many others, I seek quality products and a variety of brands. The major supermarkets have lost their edge and thankfully smart retailers are regaining market share.
    Most of the businesses I frequent even give away free biodegradable shopping bags, unlike the greedy supermarkets. ;)

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    Re: Coffee, as you like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 714D445C49280 link=1257286656/0#0 date=1257286656
    Further to my rant in another area, just happened to come across this article, lot of truth in it.
    http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/full-cream-fascists-just-let-me-have-milk-in...
    Would the truth be that St. Alis marketing machine is in overdrive and is achieving publicity at every opportunity?? ;D

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    Re: Coffee, as you like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 4542575855360 link=1257286656/11#11 date=1257311639
    Quote Originally Posted by 5C60697164050 link=1257286656/10#10 date=1257310479
    Supermarkets TG thats where most of us shop
    That is a statement that may apply in a country town like Moonta, but in the cities this is not the case.
    More and more people are purchasing from specialty stores where they seek service and a friendly smile. Like many others, I seek quality products and a variety of brands. The major supermarkets have lost their edge and thankfully smart retailers are regaining market share.
    Most of the businesses I frequent even give away free biodegradable shopping bags, unlike the greedy supermarkets. ;)
    Stan old son I aint a country bumpkin, borne and bred in the great metropolis of Adelaide and am down there every week, (major supermarkets lost their edge) yeah right, Coles and Woolies are crying all the way to the bank.
    (Small retailers regaining market share) sure there are a few speciality retailers appearing, but put together they only corner a minuscule portion of the consumer dollar.
    If you cant see that the likes of Bunnings, Dan murphys, BWS, Woolies , Coles, Target, Aldi and IGA etc dominate the market you either have your head in the sand or live in a different world than the rest of us.
    Check out this recent reporthttp://theland.farmonline.com.au/new...s/1609734.aspx it pretty well says it all.
    I aint saying its right simply that its a fact.

    Cheers,

    Jon. :)

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    Re: Coffee, as you like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 4F485D525F3C0 link=1257286656/12#12 date=1257311928
    Quote Originally Posted by 714D445C49280 link=1257286656/0#0 date=1257286656
    Further to my rant in another area, just happened to come across this article, lot of truth in it.
    http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/full-cream-fascists-just-let-me-have-milk-in... *
    Would the truth be that St. Alis marketing machine *is in overdrive and is achieving publicity at every opportunity?? ;D
    I didnt see the article being about St Alis, I think he rated about 6 lines (hardly overdrive) though full marks to him, I wish him every success.
    The point of the article was to bag these clowns who refuse to serve coffee with milk and look down their nose at any pleb who dares to put sugar into a shot of espresso, and I agree with her sentiments, as long as Im paying for it Ill drink it the way I want, and if Im belittled because of my preference then my money will go elsewhere in the future.
    Mind you In all my years Ive only been subjected to this sort of treatment a couple of times, the last time I recall was an Italian restaurant on King William road, the waitress (I know politically incorrect) served the main course before the entrée and then indignantly told us this was the correct way, that little episode resulted in a complimentary bottle of wine from management, and guess what? on our return visits the wait person (what a clumsy word) was nowhere to be seen, wonder why? ;)

    Cheers,

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    Re: Coffee, as you like it.

    Its quite possible, I have never been to the cafe so Im just speculating, that the no milk thing is not just about taste but there is an anti-dairy ethos behind it. I believe that there is a market for dairy free cafes for people who are either allergic or make a choice not to consume dairy, can go to confident that their will be a full menu that suits their diet with no risk of cross contamination.

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    Re: Coffee, as you like it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 4A767F6772130 link=1257286656/13#13 date=1257316459
    Stan old son
    Am not old. ;)
    Quote Originally Posted by 4A767F6772130 link=1257286656/13#13 date=1257316459
    Coles and Woolies are crying all the way to the bank.
    (Small retailers regaining market share) sure there are a few speciality retailers appearing, but put together they only corner a minuscule portion of the consumer dollar.
    If you cant see that the likes of Bunnings, Dan murphys, BWS, Woolies , Coles, Target, Aldi and IGA etc dominate the market you either have your head in the sand or live in a different world than the rest of us.
    If you understand their business model and buying power you will know why they make the profits that they do, mainly from people who are too lazy to shop elsewhere.
    I rarely shop in these establishments.
    Coles and Woolies and their respective brands dominate a market segment. Foodland an independent (affiliated with Metcash) is taking them on, offers superior products and service, and sometimes price, but definitely quality. It is doing well, visit Norwood Foodland for example.
    In the 70s and 80s the supermarkets took on the small retilers (butchers, bakers, continental delis etc) by stocking the same products at a cheaper price. Now the smaller guys sell it at the equivalent price to them, but offer more variety and better products.
    There are a huge number of boutique products not sold in supermarkets.
    The Central Market in Adelaide does a roaring business, because of their business model.
    If you want a mediocre product at a "cheap" price visit your nominated retailers. If you are discerning, want better service and a better product, support the smaller retailer, price is not always everything.
    Compare what is on Brown Bean Bay with what Coles and Woolies sell. Can you appreciate the difference?
    The same applies to all the smaller retailers who sell products similar to those available in your nominated stores.
    The slow food revolution is growing slowly!
    The stores you mention are publicly listed companies and need to produce hype to increase their share price. I work for a private company, we do not blow our horn publicly, but we outperform our publicly listed competitors. Success is measured in many different ways. The secret is to learn to read between the lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 665A534B5E3F0 link=1257286656/14#14 date=1257317683
    StanC wrote on Yesterday at 4:18pm:
    Jon W wrote on Yesterday at 9:17am:
    Further to my rant in another area, just happened to come across this article, lot of truth in it.
    http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/full-cream-fascists-just-let-me-have-milk-in....

    Would the truth be that St. Alis marketing machineis in overdrive and is achieving publicity at every opportunity?? Grin

    I didnt see the article being about St Alis, I think he rated about 6 lines (hardly overdrive) though full marks to him, I wish him every success.
    The point of the article was to bag these clowns who refuse to serve coffee with milk and look down their nose at any pleb who dares to put sugar into a shot of espresso, and I agree with her sentiments, as long as Im paying for it Ill drink it the way I want, and if Im belittled because of my preference then my money will go elsewhere in the future.
    Mind you In all my years Ive only been subjected to this sort of treatment a couple of times, the last time I recall was an Italian restaurant on King William road, the waitress (I know politically incorrect) served the main course before the entrée and then indignantly told us this was the correct way, that little episode resulted in a complimentary bottle of wine from management, and guess what? on our return visits the wait person (what a clumsy word) was nowhere to be seen, wonder why? Wink
    I agree with you as to the point of the article, but somehow St Ali still got a mention. They are in the paper all the time.
    that was my point.
    All the best to a slick businessman who understands the market.
    By the way Coless and Woolies have a similar attitude to that raised in this article.



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