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    First post - advice needed

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    Hi, my name is Adam and Im a coffee snob.... (what a great site!)

    I have a cheap Breville machine ($125) that I was about to throw away and buy a $500 - $1000 machine because my coffee just wasnt coming out with any flavour anymore....
    But then I did some reading and it seems that the freshness of the coffee beans and the grind is the first thing that I need to fix.

    So my question is, should I
    1. buy freshly roasted beans and grind them daily??
    2. have the shop grind me a weeks worth of fresh coffee at a time?

    Thanks.

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    Hi Adam and welcome to Coffeesnobs!

    The reading you have done has helped you to draw a very good conclusion - freshly roasted beans, ground just before you use them are one of the keys to getting good results from any machine.

    so in answer to your question -

    Quote Originally Posted by 4E4B4E424D2F0 link=1262221376/0#0 date=1262221376
    So my question is, should I
    1. buy freshly roasted beans and grind them daily?? *
    You should grind your beans just before you use them. If you dont have a grinder already, I think you can get a decent Sunbeam one for around $200 but Im sure one of the sponsors could help you choose one that fits your budget.


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    Re: First post - advice needed

    Welcome to CoffeeSnobs!

    Option 1 without doubt.

    As is often said around here - the grinder is VERY important.
    You can get great coffee using a quality grinder and good beans even with a cheap brewing method (IE: Plunger or low end machine).

    You cannot get great coffee even with a very expensive machine and pre-ground coffee.

    So certainly look at the buying fresh (and good) beans and grinding AS REQUIRED!

    Another thing said often around here is the rule of 3s.
    Green coffee should be used within 3 years.
    Roasted coffee is usually best within 3 weeks.
    Ground coffee should be used within 3 minutes of grinding.

    Enjoy the ride, search the forums and dont be afraid to ask questions.

    Brett.

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    another thing Id suggest before choosing a grinder, is try to be honest with yourself about your future plans as a coffee snob. *
    many people on this forum have bought a ~$200 grinder, only to later upgrade to something better. *Im onto my 3rd machine and soon-to-be 2nd grinder and Im not unique. *
    A good grinder can last a long time so its probably better (and cheaper) to buy 1 good one, than to go on a slow upgrade path with several average ones.
    For me, the SB grinder was a gift, and when my Macap arrives in a week or two (thanks to Chris at Talk Coffee) the Sunbeam will still be used on decaf duties so thats always an option for you even if you do decide to start cheaper and upgrade later...
    just my second crack worth...

    Geoff

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    Re: First post - advice needed

    as someone who had their sunbeam for about 6 weeks before upgrading to a mazzer, make sure you are honest about how addicted you will get to having better and better stuff. having said that, the sunbeam (EM0480) was a great grinder and works well with a few little modifications. as you have a breville, the one thing you will need to do is make sure you get an unpressurized basket. with this and the grinder, you can get a pretty decent shot going and it might keep you happy until the hardcore upgrade-itis sets in and you spend $2-5k before you know it...

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    Re: First post - advice needed

    I second the three last posts, some very good advice there, weve all been there ;D

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    Re: First post - advice needed

    Quote Originally Posted by 0400263F3F3A25323D530 link=1262221376/5#5 date=1262232766
    I second the three last posts, some very good advice there, weve all been there ;D
    Yes, 3 grinders, 3 espresso machines--say no more!!!
    :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7A7E584141445B4C432D0 link=1262221376/5#5 date=1262232766
    weve all been there
    I havent; I jumped in the deep end (and havent regretted it).

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    Re: First post - advice needed

    Quote Originally Posted by 0E0A2C3535302F3837590 link=1262221376/5#5 date=1262232766
    I second the three last posts, some very good advice there, weve all been there
    Yep yep!

    6 Espresso machines and 4 grinder...and about to add onother of each I had a laugh :D

    Your obviously yet to truly experience how good coffee can be from your own home. The Breville you mentioned is roughly where most of us started our Snobbery life :)
    In retrospect... there is a couple of espresso machines i could have done without but sometimes you just feel like you need the next step up and make a purchase without a thought of how long your going to take before you upgrade again.

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    An iberital grinder can be had for $300 and will make a world of difference to the flavour of your coffee.
    Bang for buck.

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    Re: First post - advice needed

    Thanks for all the great advice folks..... I am currently looking at a SB EM0480 grinder or Rancillo Rocky grinder....... Probably get the Sunbeam because of its entry level affordability and the fact that Im broke right now!

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    Re: First post - advice needed

    Quote Originally Posted by 3D362C3E6168590 link=1262221376/4#4 date=1262227710
    as someone who had their sunbeam for about 6 weeks before upgrading to a mazzer, make sure you are honest about how addicted you will get to having better and better stuff. having said that, the sunbeam (EM0480) was a great grinder and works well with a few little modifications. as you have a breville, the one thing you will need to do is make sure you get an unpressurized basket. with this and the grinder, you can get a pretty decent shot going and it might keep you happy until the hardcore upgrade-itis sets in and you spend $2-5k before you know it...
    Hi, thanks for the advice.
    Could you explain the "modifications" you suggested for the SB EM0480? It looks like a fairly decent grinder and may be all that I can afford at this moment.... and also what is an underpressurised basket?

    Sorry for the novice questions *;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6366636F60020 link=1262221376/11#11 date=1262423599
    Hi, thanks for the advice.
    Could you explain the "modifications" you suggested for the SB EM0480? It looks like a fairly decent grinder and may be all that I can afford at this moment.... and also what is an underpressurised basket?

    Sorry for the novice questions *
    Use the search feature... Read how to search here http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1257241858

    1: Lots on the Em0480 grinder and any number of mods if and when needed

    2: Double floor or pressurised baskets Vs single floor... Again... Lots to read and either CoffeeSnobs or Google will tell you all.

    3: Go and read / search the sub $500 topics http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?board=BrewEntry



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