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    What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Just wondering. I know what the manuals say but wondering how often you clean our beloved machines??
    Although Ive only had the machine for 5 days.....Im reasonbly fussy and cleans the spout and flush after each coffee........then daily wipe.

    This morning I backflushed but without the backwash powder.... I think I will do this fortnightly or monthly.......depends what you guys/gals do .......

    So spill the beans !!! *Just how fussy are you?? ;)

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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    I backflush with water only after each session.

    Detergent clean fortnightly.

    It depends on how much you use the machine.
    Coffee oils build up over time.
    If you made twice as many coffees in a week as I do youd have to clean twice as often.

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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    I backflush with water each evening and wipe the machine down.

    I do around a monthly detergent clean - sometimes more often if Ive had guests and the machine has had higher than normal shots put through it.

    Definitely recommend getting some espresso machine cleaning powder from one of the site sponsors - Ive got a large tub that I got from Chris at TalkCoffee about 9 months ago and its still half full. That stuff does all sorts of other things, too, not just my machine so its multi-purpose.

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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    I do a daily flush and wipe after making a coffee. Also do a weekly clean which is full wipe down, empty drip tray, flush water through,etc.

    Black flush using the SB tablets after a month or two depending on use. And descaling after 6-8 months period. :)

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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    I clean and flush after each use (daily) and do a weekly backwash with detergent. I only make 3-6 cups per day.

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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    P/F wiggle after each shot, and a weekly backflush with detergent.

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    wow, interesting habits and good care by everyone so far.........this is awesome.......each one a little different to the next owner....:)

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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    GPP: Scale filtered water feed, PF wiggle after every session, backflush (water) end of every day, chemical backflush weekly, full descale as required, usually quarterly though ;)

    SJ: Until i remove the auto stop flap........tape modded, pulled apart every month to clean path and burrs with a toothbrush.

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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    Usually I do a water backflush each week, take apart the group and give it a soak in cleaner monthly

    drip tray and winggle after each session and descaled every 6 - 12 months (ive descaled once and had no evidence of scal at all which is good, filtered water only in my baby)

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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    Rancilio Silvia - 2 coffees a day

    • scrub the screen and seal with the little brush and wipe down machine after each coffee
    • backflush with water each week
    • backflush with coffee machine detergent every 4-6 weeks, soaking the portafilter baskets while Im at it
    • take grouphead apart and scrub with same detergent every second detergented backflush


    works for me...

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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    Jiggle with blind filter then water only back flush at last session of the day, wipe down machine, chemical wash 3-4 weekly, wipe with wet and then dry micro-fibre cloth whenever I see a blemish on stainless!! ::) ::) ::) ::)

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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    Backflush what is this backflush thing you speak of ::) Got to love levers for simplicity :P

    Brush and Wipe over daily, Cafetto every week or two for all bits the coffee gets to. Drop the shower screens out every month I guess.

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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    Pretty much backflush with just water (and do the portafilter boogie, i mean wiggle) every coffee brewing session, and a weekly/fortnightly chemical backflushing. Takes me at least 25 minutes to clean up everything (including grinder, milk jugs, etc..)

    Im curious, how long does it take for everyone to clean everything up once finished making coffees? I usually brush out all grinds from my grinder, then pick out and suck all the grinds out from my grinder with a dustbuster (i use it in the beanhopper, chute, and dosing chamber), backflush the espresso machine with water, and clean up all the dishes...

    How long does it take everyone else? Is there any quicker method haha, as IN, do i really need to be cleaning my grinder etc this thoroughly? I just dont like leaving old grinds in there!

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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    Jiggle grinder at end of grind while running to get rid of most leftover grinds
    Wipe steam wand and run for about 5 secondss
    Run machine through wiped basket for about 5 secondss
    Wipe and brush seal and shower screen
    Run machine through rinsed basket again for about 5 seconds
    Rinse basket and group handle
    Wipe machine

    This probably takes about 1 minute

    Water backflush and empty tray at end of day

    Chemical backflush and remove shower screen every month
    (when looking at removed shower screen there doesnt seem to be too much residue left on it to me)

    Descale every 3 months

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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    After making coffee:
    Immediately after steaming is complete, wipe wand with yellow microfibre cloth and purge more steam.
    Run water through group head, brush around group and seal with pallo tool.
    Wipe out basket in group handle and reload loosely into group. Wipe down any areas needing it with the blue microfibre cloth.

    Weekly (approx.):
    Chemical backflush of machine. Soak Group handle, baskets and pallo brush in caffetto solution.
    Brush out stray grounds from grinder. Remove grinder hopper, lids and grounds tray for soapy wash. SS knockbox drawer also gets a soapy wash.

    Six monthly:
    Descale, group seal replacement and shower screen clean (or replacement). On the Expobar, the shower screen can only be removed when you take the group seal out as well, so I put a bit of faith in the backflush to take care of things. So far, the worst I have seen is some reasonably hard buildup around the internal edge. Not great, but not bad enough to make me think I need to be looking more frequently.

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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    Quote Originally Posted by 6C6B7E686573553B3333330A0 link=1266012490/14#14 date=1266362056
    wipe wand with yellow microfibre cloth
    Quote Originally Posted by 6C6B7E686573553B3333330A0 link=1266012490/14#14 date=1266362056
    Wipe down any areas needing it with the blue microfibre cloth.
    Creepy!

    We use the same colours. :o

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    OMG !!!! We just purchased the same SUperwipe cloths over the weekend for the same purpose.....4 large yellows and 4 smaller blue ones...... time to call in Mulders !!

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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    My lever machine doesnt backflush. I wipe and flush daily (and often polish daily while Im waiting for machine to heat). I like to pull down the cylinder in the grouphead every couple of weeks to wipe out and put a touch of food safe lubricant in there. Shower screen preferably weekly, but sometimes just gets the fortnightly.

    Quite a different ballgame than the 3 way solenoid.

    I had a supplier (non sponsor) say that there was no need to clean my machine that often, I replied "Oh yes there is!...Im a snob"

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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    Ive never descaled my Isomac but its been serviced every 6 months....Im hoping it is included with service (fingers x) :-[?? * How do you descale?

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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    Quote Originally Posted by 5059495A555F4F3B0 link=1266012490/18#18 date=1266650563
    Ive never descaled my Isomac but its been serviced every 6 months....Im hoping it is included with service (fingers x) :-[?? * How do you descale?
    Hi ssl,

    Id doubt it...To do it properly, it takes about 2 hours...so unless youre paying well over $200 for your service, not likley I suspect *:-/

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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    I read on many forums that using a citric acid based solution and running it several cycles through your machine should take around 30 minutes??
    How does it take 2 hours? *Are there extra steps involved during or after the cycle??

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6958594E4544482D0 link=1266012490/20#20 date=1266654415
    I read on many forums that using a citric acid based solution and running it several cycles through your machine should take around 30 minutes??
    How does it take 2 hours? *Are there extra steps involved during or after the cycle??
    Hello bean,

    Descaling is covered elsewhere in the forum and a search over more than the last week will bring up quite a few threads containing useful information.

    Nope to the citric as it can lift scale off in plaques and they can then block other areas of the machine. You need to spend a few bucks and buy a proprietory descaler designed for the job. It puzzles me when people spend thousands on a machine and then try to save a few dollars cleaning it....

    30 minutes *may* do a single boiler machine which doesnt need to be opened up and has minor scale deposits. A HX machine requires extra work as the boiler is only half full of descaler unless you force a complete boiler fill and this needs to happen multiple times. Multiple boiler machines require more again.

    Soak cycles of 15 minutes are recommended between flushes of descaler as well until a whole tank full has been consumed. Thereafter, multiple complete boiler flushes are required. How that fits into 30 minutes I have no idea....

    If the scale is really severe, the process can take days and can require partial or complete disassembly of the machine. On the other hand, there is no use descaling if its not required. We all learned about acid + metal in Science classes *:-?

    Ultimately, the best bet is to use filtered water designed for coffee machines. Drinking water filters are generally not suitable. This topic is also covered elsewhere here.

    Just goes to prove that any goose with an opinion can publish it on the internerd...doesnt mean its correct though regardless of how many other people regurgitate it. ::)

    Hope that clarifies things.

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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    umm interested and i guess the size of the machine has its part to play.

    But other known coffee websites still mention the citric descalers....
    Some of the sites include:

    http://www.anothercoffee.co.uk/coffeeinfo/cleaning.aspx

    http://www.home-barista.com/espresso-machines/how-do-i-descale-my-espresso-machine-t1739.html

    mod edit- commercial link removed in line with site sales and posting policy

    They all mention the acid citric descaling products.

    I will talk with Chris from whom I got the unit and follow his recommendations as I dont want to stuff up my machine nor have warranty issues............and yes, I have been reading on here about descaling. Thanks.

    If the water quality is soft (which it is down the Peninsula), I would assume you may only need to descale once a year..........


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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    Quote Originally Posted by 6A5B5A4D46474B2E0 link=1266012490/22#22 date=1266709717
    But other known coffee websites still mention the citric descalers....
    Some of the sites include:

    http://www.anothercoffee.co.uk/coffeeinfo/cleaning.aspx
    Interesting. These guys state that Urnex is a citric acid based descaler. Yet, Urnex themselves have an MSDS stating the composition, and the chemicals are not citric acid.

    In the following link you will find an argument that the earth is flat. Reading it convinced me to ensure that all coffee machines were placed on a level surface. ;D

    http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/FlatWhyFlat.htm

    Quote Originally Posted by 6A5B5A4D46474B2E0 link=1266012490/22#22 date=1266709717
    I will talk with Chris from whom I got the unit and follow his recommendations
    Now thats smart! ;) :)


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    Re: What are your machine cleaning habits daily/weekly/monthly? (Multiple Optionsa)

    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    We have two excellent cleaning product sponsors: Bombora supplies and Cafetto...

    Their products are excellent and you will find that the site sponsors stock one or both brands. Nothing like using the right tool for the job. ;)

    http://www.bomborasupplies.com.au/product.php?productid=247&cat=8555&page=1
    http://www.bomborasupplies.com.au/product.php?productid=285&cat=8555&page=1
    http://www.cafetto.com.au/homeprod.htm



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