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    Ive gone mad of late. Ive started roasting, and now Ive gone and purchased a Pullman Tamper. Looks great. But.....

    How can I explain this to my wife. "We already have a Tamper" >:( (Gulp, look sheepish) What should my reply be.

    Please help.

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    Darling....

    You already had a dress/shoes/perfume etc - and you needed a new "better one"

    Well guess what......... ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D

    Good luck (is your life insurance paid up?)

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    Ok should have asked this before hand, but does the tamper make any difference to the coffee. Im hoping the answer is yes.

    Could be the opening to my argument.

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    Difference....

    Yep HUGE!!!

    My wife (who is a very fussy latte drinker) thought the first glass I made for her with Gregs tamper was with a new bean - much smoother and sweeter.

    You will also find pour time will increase a little for a given grind ....

    The puck is being more evenly compressed - no channelling - hence the above effects.

    See:

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1161240704/75#75

    and the posts below for some info - including a comparison test which I did.

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    Yep - what JavaB said.

    What sort of tamper did you already have?
    Was it the crappy plastic, non fitting thing?

    Anyway, there is a reason Greg has sold over 1000 of his tampers. Theyre bloody great!

    A properly fitting, good quality, stainless steel tamper such as the Pullman will make a great difference to your shots. Also, I found it really helped get me into a good, repeatable routine for making my coffee.

    When I started out on the snob path, I saw a number of posts/articles etc. extolling the virtues of a good tamper.
    Whilst searching for one to buy, I came across Gregs website. I read a lot of the testimonials there and thought that a lot of people seemed to be saying similar things - basically "You wont believe what a difference it will make". They were right. And it looks great too!

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    I had an aftermarket tamper, which was an upgrade to the plastic thing you get with most machines. It wasnt a proper fit. Had about 1.5 - 2 mm play all round.

    So with what everyone is saying the Pullman should be a huge improvement. Cant wait to get it home and try it out tonight.

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    I had similar problem when I ordered mine very recently.
    the trick/my trick was to ask for her opinion which tamper handle looks better than order that one ;)
    then show her all the good review from all the good people here
    And of course after that give her the best coffee with the new tamper.
    Unfortunately I cant do that since my wifes expecting our 2nd baby

    and yes, it DOES make a different - at least making the tamping process a lot quicker because you only need to tamp once no need to move north-south-east-west with the tamping

    Oh, could also mention youre going to put the old tamper on evilbay ;)

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    Honey,

    it was either a new machine or a new tamper, because it just wasnt working for me. The Giotto was $2500, and the tamper $XX.

    Oh, and I need a new golf driver too. If I hit the ball further, I dont have to hit it as often, and will therefore be home earlier after a game of golf. :)

    Done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darcy link=1166066220/0#5 date=1166072331
    I had an aftermarket tamper, which was an upgrade to the plastic thing you get with most machines. It wasnt a proper fit. Had about 1.5 - 2 mm play all round.

    You will notice a huge difference for sure.... I only had about 0.2 to 0.3mm play all round and the difference was incredible.... so with your difference ;)

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    I think we need a new thread titled "Justifications 101" that has a list of standard jutifications and excuses that can be used by a CS to obtain purchasing approval for new espresso equipment.

    I think if you say that "It was on sale, I saved $XX"..(even though it wasnt) she may see the justification in that. I get that one at least once a week ;D

    or

    "The kids got new shoes, so I got a new tamper"

    or

    "Its my Xmas present to me"

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    Just remember "it is always easier to seek forgiveness than ask for permission" ;)

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    Say nothing, let your coffee do the the talking. Tell her after shes had her first shot from the new tamper, it will justify itself. The cost of a Pullman is a small price to pay for perfection.

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    Re: Tampers

    I justified my new tamper to my wife by saying that it doubled as a butt plug...

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    Quote Originally Posted by askthecoffeeguy link=1166066220/0#12 date=1166087679
    I justified my new tamper to my wife by saying that it doubled as a butt plug...
    Im not going to your place for a coffee ;) ;D ;D ;D

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    You wouldnt be the first one to say that my coffee tastes like s*** *;D ;D ;D

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    "What darling? the tamper? I thought I had showed it to you, bought it ages ago...."

    Works everytime. ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by askthecoffeeguy link=1166066220/0#12 date=1166087679
    I justified my new tamper to my wife by saying that it doubled as a butt plug...
    Is it a tight fit and do you still have to use the standard 15 kg of pressure behind the plug. Er, tamper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robusto link=1166066220/15#16 date=1166095156
    Is it a tight fit and do you still have to use the standard 15 kg of pressure behind the plug. Er, tamper.
    You have to feel sorry for Greg when he measured the em... "basket" :o

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    On the other hand, he may have found it an enjoyable, if somewhat novel, experience. I wont go into what sort of puck it produces, either.

    Robusto

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    Ummm Guys....

    This thread is taking a turn decidedly for the worst and maybe should head back to topic ;)

    Mal.

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    Getting back on topic have recently introduced mandatory tamping for all coffees at my work, and a 30 / 30 pour (30ml in 30 sec), and the difference to the quality of our coffees has been outstanding!

    Were generating a much richer, thicker, and more flavoursome espresso, and already customers are asking:

    "Have you changed your coffee?"

    And, despite my initial protestations, the manual tamping process takes no longer to do, than using the less effective mounted tamper, which is attached to the grinder, and provides a more even, compact, and polished tamp, resulting in noticeably superior extraction.

    Gotta be happy with that! ;)

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    Some experts say tamping is overrated when it comes to a good extraction. But assuming that is not the case, and tamping is indeed, as most of us agree, crucial... then it beats me how lifting a portafilter to the stationary tamper under the grinder, and exerting no force whatsoever, does the required job.

    Manual is definitely the way to go. Way to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by robusto link=1166066220/15#21 date=1166131798

    Manual is definitely the way to go. Way to be.

    Robusto

    Nice - I myself was thinking of a Manuel tamper to save me the effort, but Ive been advertising in barcelona without success for a month now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grendel link=1166066220/15#22 date=1166143498
    Quote Originally Posted by robusto link=1166066220/15#21 date=1166131798

    Manual is definitely the way to go. Way to be.

    Robusto

    Nice - I myself was thinking of a Manuel tamper to save me the effort, but Ive been advertising in barcelona without success for a month now.
    I prefer the Conchita tamper myself ;D

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    I might be missing something here, when manual tamp was being referred to I was picturing just using a normal tamper (such as me with my Pullman tamper). But from the way Grendel was talking now I am picturing the pull down tamper stand such as the one from coffeeparts.com Tampers

    Or maybe it was an inside joke and I am way off track now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeechaser link=1166066220/15#24 date=1166144412

    Or maybe it was an inside joke and I am way off track now.
    Yep... Grendel is referring to Manuel ..... as in a person whose name is Manuel ;)

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    Well now I feel really stupid indeed :-? Atleast others can laugh at my expense for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeechaser link=1166066220/15#26 date=1166153563
    Well now I feel really stupid indeed :-? Atleast others can laugh at my expense for a while.
    Nope, well just assume that neither you nor Grendel have ever watched Fawlty Towers. If you had youd have understood the "Manuel" reference, and if Grendel had seen it hed have understood that having Manuel tamp his coffee is probably the worst possible thing he could do. :P

    Back on topic, put the tamper at the back of the wardrobe, go searching for a jumper/shirt/something you "have" to wear, and find the tamper while youre looking. "Hey darling remember this, I got it years ago and couldnt use it. Wonder if it will still work....."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeechaser link=1166066220/15#24 date=1166144412
    I might be missing something here, when manual tamp was being referred to I was picturing just using a normal tamper (such as me with my Pullman tamper). But from the way Grendel was talking now I am picturing the pull down tamper stand such as the one from coffeeparts.com Tampers

    Or maybe it was an inside joke and I am way off track now.
    Dont worry, I thought manuel was a spelling error! So were stupid together! ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Pullman link=1166066220/15#28 date=1166162595

    Dont worry, I thought manuel was a spelling error! So were stupid together! ;D
    Come on Greg get with the program .... or are you too young for Fawlty Towers.....

    Id rather have Manuel tamp my coffee than Basil Fawlty..... at least the grounds would be in the PF and not in the water reservoir ;)

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    keh?

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    What we dont need is Manuel to tamper with a manual tamper or Basil with a temper using the tamper.

    Robusto

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    Quote Originally Posted by robusto link=1166066220/30#31 date=1166166460
    What we dont need is Manuel to tamper with a manual tamper or Basil with a temper using the tamper.

    Robusto
    And I thought I was confused before :-? but now :o :-?

    Nah all makes sense to me now. I do know who all those people are, not a fanatic though (probably obvious after my earlier remarks) ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coffeechaser link=1166066220/15#24 date=1166144412

    Or maybe it was an inside joke and I am way off track now.
    They say if you have to explain the joke, that it aint funny, but Manual (like the crazy waiter from Faulty Towers) tamper - thay say that good help is hard to find!

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    A Manuel tamper would have to include a Siberian hamster I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grendel link=1166066220/30#34 date=1166184834
    A Manuel tamper would have to include a Siberian hamster I guess.
    That goes by the name of "Basil" ;D

    Mal.

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    And is a "Filigree"!

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    Only when its the Rat Inspectors day off.....

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    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    So Mr Darcy, have we answered your question after all that??



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