Did ya have to shout :-XOriginally Posted by 1F1B3D2424213E2926480 link=1273617769/1#1 date=1273618260
These figures are for home users, not charbucks who get there beans for $1/kg
Green coffee ~$10 per kg = 1000g / 10g per shot = 100 shots per kg
So each 10g dose of coffee = 10c
Full Cream Milk ~$4 per 3 lt = 3000ml / 210ml per latte = 14 cups per bottle
So each 210ml of milk = 28c
Total = 38 cents per latte (single shot)
*This does not include Power consumed by roasters, grinders or coffee machines. (or the enormous overheads of a cafe, if thats what your after)
Your cost of coffee beans doesnt take in to account that green coffee loses weight during roasting. Normally around 15%. It might be more accurate to say that 850 grams of roasted coffee costs $10, overheads of power/gas, roasting equipment not taken in to consideration.
I had a laugh. Do you really use 10gm of green coffee to make a shot? ;DOriginally Posted by 7074524B4B4E514649270 link=1273617769/3#3 date=1273618754
Yep, it wasnt to the cent, but the $10/kg is below average too for me, it was just an exampleOriginally Posted by 5A58545C5C5255483B0 link=1273617769/4#4 date=1273619079
Nescafe do, why cant i? ;DOriginally Posted by 7F5E555552483B0 link=1273617769/5#5 date=1273619318
Originally Posted by 2F2D21292927203D4E0 link=1273617769/4#4 date=1273619079
So true... Besides where is teh labour component to roast and then to deliver...
It is interesting how often many forget the actual labour component.. And the a $35 / hr rate for example is only part of it... Many often forget all the other additional costs i.e. Super / leave etc.
A rule of thumb is look at the persons hrly rate and then double it and then round up :-)
Besides if some one was serious about an assignment... Chamber of Commerce and many other places have some interesting stats.
The cost of instant is available any where and again; Cost of Product or Cost per cup... too many variables.
Then again we live in the detail; while others want a global picture - allows the disadvantage persons and less that ideal practices to be hidden from public view :o
This doesnt take into account the 15 - 20% reduction in weight after roasting .
Assuming you get 400grams of roasted from 500g of greens (cost at least $6 toCoffeeSnobs, including delivery), that works out at twenty 20g shots at 30c per shot. So each cup would cost 15c if you split a standard double shot.
Im afraid your milk calculations are not correct either. It only takes about 150 mls to produce enough textured milk for a single 210ml latte glass/cup, assuming you half fill a 600ml milk jug to steam enough for two cups.
A little bait in UPPERCASE and we all get passionate ;)
You need time out with a 1600 my dear boy ;DOriginally Posted by 1D193F2626233C2B244A0 link=1273617769/10#10 date=1273620505
How does Sunday suit you :-?
15c MILK 15c COFFEE IN A STANDARD LATTEOriginally Posted by 7374777A72612624160 link=1273617769/0#0 date=1273617769
Originally Posted by 7374777A72612624160 link=1273617769/0#0 date=1273617769
ASSUMING YOU ROAST YOURSELF,
15c MILK 15c COFFEE IN A STANDARD LATTE
MUST REMEMBER TO INCLUDE COST OF MACHINE + GRINDER + ROASTER AS WELL. COST OF THE ABOVE CAN VARY SIGNIFICANTLY FROM UNDER 1500 IN A POOR MANS SETUP TO ABOUT 3K FOR A HIGH END DOMESTIC MACHINE ALONE.[/edit]
lets also assume that youre using speciality coffee which can cost considerably more to purchase and that you run as I do with 20g average per coffee - then factor in a significant percentage of wastage and the labour costs associated with running the coffee machine, serving the customer, and washing the glass and your costs go up considerably
at my joint we calculate that the cost of the coffee used is 56c plus 35c for biodynamic unhomoginised milk (not including wastage) = 91c (more like $1 including wastage) to produce an uncompromising product
many cafes also charge extra for soy milk but spare a thought for those whos dairy milk costs at least as much as a quality soy milk to use but who charge no extra for it...
I actually think they were asking about the price not the cost, now let me get a dart out and throw it at a map and we can work out the average price in that area! Varies a lot from region to region but a standard coffee should be in the 3-3.5 range I would think.
In one of the coffee blogs they shared research on how coffee drinkers at work make fewer mistakes. While thats great news for coffee drinkers and employers what about the cost to the employer of those coffee breaks?
Now the times and $$$ quoted are only indicative of people who are at the lower pay scale and have very good time management skills ;D
How much is it costing over the space of a year for your employees to just “duck out a grab a brew”?
Lets have a look at some calculations. How much would it cost an employer with say 30 staff over the space of a year for Coffee breaks.
Number of Employees – 30
Coffee Breaks per day – 2
Average Coffee Break time – 10 minutes (edit -cough)
Average hourly rate – $20 (edit - front line and not management)
This calculates out at a cost to the employer of $1000 per week and $52,000 per year.
Thats expensive coffee even if they make less mistakes.
So….what options do employers have to combat this downtime and cost to the company?
Ya and if 3 managers were involved, ya can double the the down time ;D
Thus employ a full time barista as teh office whipping person / gofer and thus;
1: A Coffee machine to write off on tax,
2: reduce teh un employment stats of baristas,
3: support multi-skilling (if they can use a coffe machine they can us e a photo coper in teh slow times)
4: Save that lost productivity as teh coffee is now delevered
5: Better moral for teh staff as less $ spent buying coffee (company discount provided - can give it away)
6: Senior management [s]pocket the profits for personal hols[/s] oversee the cash profits and donations to worthy causes.
So why have companies not picked up on this..... :o
Always opportunities out their.