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    Re: Best place for Barista/Coffee course in Melb

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    I must qualify the following by saying I dont have first hand knowledge of any of those trainers listed, but instinctively, I would choose someone who is actively working as a Barista, and that would be Dave Seng from The Espresso School.

    Dave seems to have a genuine passion for coffee and reviews by participants suggest his training is first rate.

    I wish I could pry him out of Melbourne to do some training up here!


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    Re: Best place for Barista/Coffee course in Melb

    Quote Originally Posted by 67606D7875140 link=1267584082/0#0 date=1267584082
    Hi,

    Im looking for a good place in Melbourne to do a barista course.

    I have come across a few such as...
    Coffeeschool.com.au
    Espressoschool.com.au
    coffee.angliss.vic.edu.au
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    Is one place better than others or are they pretty much similar.

    Can anyone recommend me a place?

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    Hi Woo,

    My opinion (and thats all it is) is that if you want to do a coffee course to get the basics, they are probably all good. All except the edited out last one are also CS sponsors so it would be terrific if you could support one of the guys who contribute to keeping this forum here for you ;)

    On the other hand, if its barista training you are looking for, Id probably choose Espresso School as Dave Seng is a barista rather than just a coffee trainer. He works in coffee every day and competes as well. To me, that implies good communication skills and an intimate and comprehensive understanding of current practice.

    A legion of happy CSers will attest to the fact that he can and does deliver in the cup and in the training room.

    Good luck!

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    I did the William Angliss one...(but sadly the teacher that was there is no more) and was very happy with the course.

    I know David, and I think that going with his course would be excellent, I may even think of doing it just as a refresher...(if he would do one on a Saturday! ;D)

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    Re: Best place for Barista/Coffee course in Melb

    Quote Originally Posted by 0A2B2020273D4E0 link=1267584082/1#1 date=1267584834
    Dave seems to have a genuine passion for coffee and reviews by participants suggest his training is first rate.
    Quote Originally Posted by 7C233B2D262D2128282B2B232F204E0 link=1267584082/2#2 date=1267585009
    Id probably choose Espresso School as Dave Seng is a barista rather than just a coffee trainer. He works in coffee every day and competes as well. To me, that implies good communication skills and an intimate and comprehensive understanding of current practice.
    Another endorsement for David.
    Ive only met him a couple of times but each time hes come across as a really nice guy, an excellent communicator, someone willing to share to his passion and best of all, he makes a mean espresso.
    If i ever do a coffee course itll be with David.

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    Re: Best place for Barista/Coffee course in Melb

    Quote Originally Posted by 032F2D2D2F3D112D26272D252F4E0 link=1267584082/3#3 date=1267585698
    I did the William Angliss one...(but sadly the teacher that was there is no more)
    :o :o :o No more??!!!

    Hes still around, he just moved on to bigger and better things.

    I feel like I just suffered a premature demise! ;D

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    Seems like a slam dunk for David.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1A2F2225110D2128282B2B4E0 link=1267584082/5#5 date=1267586963
    I feel like I just suffered a premature demise!
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    Cheers guys

    Ill definately look into Dave from Espresso School in the next couple weeks.

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    Barista course??? Any recommendations???

    Hello guys ! ;)

    I joined this website today only and is trying to learn the As, Bs and the Cs. I love to follow some Barista course which covers from Basics and goes upto the Pro level... I really am passionate about coffee, but did not really make an initiative to learn it ! I regret it now, :(! Im still 23, so guess I still have time to make up my mistake... So guys, please recommend me places which gives out a good training of coffee and I wanna be a Pro like yall soon ! ;D

    Oh, btw, the course should be affordable as well, rather a bit cheap... I am pretty tied up with course fees for my other studies and I dont have lots to spend on coffee lessons !

    Cheers ! :)

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    Re: Barista course??? Any recommendations???

    And you are located at the South or North Pole *::) Welcome BTW :)

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    My welcome also and as BF asked we need your location to direct you.

    Steve :)

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    Re: Barista course??? Any recommendations???

    I think he might be from Timbuktu.

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    Re: Barista course??? Any recommendations???

    Sponsors on the left of the page, have a look at some of the coffee schools in the list, be aware though, they arent cheap, if ya wanna be a pro, and are truly passionate about coffee, skimping on cost may not get you far.........

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    Re: Barista course??? Any recommendations???

    Oops ! Sorry guys ! I have missed it,ha? :D

    grrrrrr... may be too much of studying... I had a laugh :P hehehehee... ;D

    I live in Melbourne, Australia ! So please recommend me a really good Basics -> Pro course with an affordable price... may be at the beginning it better be a bit cheap but, when it is to step into the next stage - I can save up a lil from what I learnt working as a Barista in a coffee place! ;)

    Cheers!

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    @ beanflying & Mono : Thanks for the welcome guys ! :)

    @ Daguerreo : Timbuktu? hahahaha... nice guess mate !

    @ WSully : thanks, i will look around a bit... Yeah, i know... but may be at the beginning I just wanna keep the fees a bit down! :(

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    Re: Barista course??? Any recommendations???

    Barista Basics mod edit:link to non sponsor removed offers a course in melbourne, im not sure about melb, but i know its one of the few places that offer TAFE accreditation in Sydney, this is very handy if you are looking for a job, just puts you that little bit above everyone else (on papaer that is).
    Having said that, I felt that their course structure and content wasnt very good if you wanted to acctually learn something about coffee, as it was slanted toward the TAFE ruberic.

    If this is your aim, Id suggest one of the site sponsors <<<<<<<<<<<
    would be more appropriate a training organisation, or you could approach a good cafe that is offering training. *Either of these options will give you a good sound knowledge and training in coffee. :)

    Quote Originally Posted by 0004223B3B3E213639570 link=1274411454/4#4 date=1274415396
    Sponsors on the left of the page, have a look at some of the coffee schools in the list, be aware though, they arent cheap, if ya wanna be a pro, and are truly passionate about coffee, skimping on cost may not get you far.........
    +1 :P

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    Re: Barista course??? Any recommendations???

    As you are in Melbourne and not the Nth Pole lots of good choices ;)

    The Espresso School, Coffee Academy, Makin Espresso , The Coffee School are all in the training thing and in Melbourne and are sponsors here. Some of the roasters including Genovese for a start offer courses as well to customers. Best thing might just be to front up with a resume to a few places and ask for a job if you are enthusiastic and have a love for good coffee then one of them might give you a start and may even foot the bill or train you on the job.

    As to the bit of paper once you have your first job and can do that job well, bits of paper are not of much worth in the long term. I have talked to people who tell me they are a barista because they have done a course and still serve me dishwater :-/

    Good Luck *:)

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    And I serve wonderful coffee, not dishwater, DO have a piece of paper, but DONT call myself a barista. :P

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    Re: Barista course??? Any recommendations???

    Quote Originally Posted by 477B667D777661747C77130 link=1274411454/9#9 date=1274506920
    And I serve wonderful coffee, not dishwater, DO have a piece of paper, but DONT call myself a barista. *:P
    I also serve pretty good coffee, dont have a piece of paper and dont call myself a Barista, guess that makes us about even. ::)

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    Re: Barista course??? Any recommendations???

    Hello,

    Would anyone here be able to recommend a good home barista training course in Sydney? *I dont want to work as a barista, just get the most possible out of my home equipment. * So my focus is not really learning to make every coffee on the menu, just perfecting my espresso making skills.

    Ive had a look at the links, but would really appreciate some personal feedback if anyone has been to any coffee courses in Sydney.

    Thanks! * :)

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    Hi Koogie

    You will find several recommendations but I will throw in my vote for JetBlack in Cremorne. I attended their course in 2008 and found it very helpful. I still adopt much of the technique I learned there. They encourage you to bring your own machine along to learn directly on it but have plenty of machines to try out as well.

    Di Bartoli in Bondi also provide such courses and Im sure they would aklso come highly recommended by those who have attended one

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    Thanks! Ill have a look into these.

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    Re: Barista course??? Any recommendations???

    Im booked in with JetBlack for a private course. *As neither I nor my bf take milk in our coffee a group lesson would be a waste, as theres quite a bit in it regarding stretching and steaming milk apparently. *So, well just be focussing on espressos and long blacks. *Very excited!

    Thanks for the rec.


    How I shall probably be at the end of the course after all that coffee: *:D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0A0E0E060804610 link=1274411454/14#14 date=1275289570
    Im booked in with JetBlack for a private course. *As neither I nor my bf take milk in our coffee a group lesson would be a waste, as theres quite a bit in it regarding stretching and steaming milk apparently. *So, well just be focussing on espressos and long blacks. *Very excited!

    Thanks for the rec.


    How I shall probably be at the end of the course after all that coffee: *:D
    Well done..

    Remember - Coffee is a social thing... *Not something you slink away and do under the cover of darkness or sheets... (errr maybe)

    So stretching milk etc is important for others that you may wish to entertain at some stage *;)


    * (errr maybe) = GJ and or other Franchise coffee ;D :D ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 797D7D757B77120 link=1274411454/14#14 date=1275289570
    Thanks for the rec.
    Youre welcome.

    By the end of the course you may be pleasantly caffeinated or wired, depending on how many shots you taste before you get it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7C535A584F705C535C5A58505853493D0 link=1274411454/15#15 date=1275289719

    Well done..

    Remember - Coffee is a social thing... *Not something you slink away and do under the cover of darkness or sheets... (errr maybe)

    So stretching milk etc is important for others that you may wish to entertain at some stage *;)


    * (errr maybe) = GJ and or other Franchise coffee *;D :D ;)
    Yes, very true! *So we will be learning a little about stretching milk, making lattes etc, just the course will be skewed towards espresso..

    Quote Originally Posted by 5B514453535C484E3D0 link=1274411454/16#16 date=1275291911

    Youre welcome.

    By the end of the course you may be pleasantly caffeinated or wired, depending on how many shots you taste before you get it right.
    I deliberately chose a morning course so we have the afternoon to wind down during, or the walls will be being climbed at midnight *:)

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    Re: Barista course??? Any recommendations???

    You dont have to taste all the shots you pull at the course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1529342F252433262E25410 link=1274411454/18#18 date=1275316255
    You dont have to taste all the shots you pull at the course.
    I did, all in the name of learning :D ;D

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    Hey Freaky,

    Shoot me an email on my website www.espressoschool.com.au to discuss training.

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    Re: Barista course??? Any recommendations???

    Quote Originally Posted by 54504B5E4D503F0 link=1274411454/19#19 date=1275356277
    Quote Originally Posted by 1529342F252433262E25410 link=1274411454/18#18 date=1275316255
    You dont have to taste all the shots you pull at the course.
    I did, all in the name of learning :D *;D
    Im impressed by your dedication :)

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    Which Barista Course in Sydney ?

    Hi Everyone, New to this forum. Glad that i found this site, Great information !

    Back to the topic, I am interested in doing a Barista course (with Cert). However i am so confused, more like overwhelmed with all the Courses available in Sydney, all of which offered Cert upon completion of the course.

    Some offered TAFE, some said they are VETAB registered/accredited etc...
    What does all that means ? Is TAFE Cert the best ?
    Frankly, i want the Cert just for the fun of it, i dont really need it for a job.

    Ive narrowed my selection down to The Sydney Coffee School (www.thesydneycoffeeschool.com.au), *and *non sponsor link removed
    Anyone has experience with any above ? Or any other suggestions ?

    Cheers..

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    Re: Which Barista Course in Sydney ?

    There are a a heap of threads on training.

    Try using the search button and set your search to the last 12 months. Saves us all repeating the same thing over and over ;)

    For mine, you can do a whole lot better than the boofheads....

    Why not find a course run by a talented Barista (Hazel, Scottie etc) rather than worrying about a piece of paper better used for origami?

    Sadly, some of the mobs who "specialise" in training are about money.

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    Make sure you have a read of this thread.

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1275723923

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    Quote Originally Posted by 282823382E7B73787D4A0 link=1274411454/22#22 date=1276966549
    Frankly, i want the Cert just for the fun of it, i dont really need it for a job.
    Then dont bother with Tafe courses !!! Best bet is to try a few of the sponsors on the left that sell machines and see when they are running small groups or if you can spring for it one on one training. I know Jetblack and DiBartoli do them for a start plus other. Any course where there is more than 6 to the trainer is not time and money well spent. If you still want the bit of paper then load up Publisher and make your own ;)

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    Re: Barista course??? Any recommendations???

    Quote Originally Posted by 336C746269626E676764646C606F010 link=1274411454/23#23 date=1276984270
    There are a a heap of threads on training.

    Try using the search button and set your search to the last 12 months. Saves us all repeating the same thing over and over ;)

    For mine, you can do a whole lot better than the boofheads....

    Why not find a course run by a talented Barista (Hazel, Scottie etc) rather than worrying about a piece of paper better used for origami?

    Sadly, some of the mobs who "specialise" in training are about money.
    Thanks for the info. Can you pls be more specific, eg which barista course in Sydney.

    Thanks again


    Quote Originally Posted by 6364606F676D78686F66010 link=1274411454/25#25 date=1277004611
    Quote Originally Posted by 282823382E7B73787D4A0 link=1274411454/22#22 date=1276966549
    Frankly, i want the Cert just for the fun of it, i dont really need it for a job.
    Then dont bother with Tafe courses !!! Best bet is to try a few of the sponsors on the left that sell machines and see when they are running small groups or if you can spring for it one on one training. I know Jetblack and DiBartoli do them for a start plus other. Any course where there is more than 6 to the trainer is not time and money well spent. If you still want the bit of paper then load up Publisher and make your own ;)
    I am indeed planning to go with one of the sponsor in Sydney - The Sydney Coffee School
    Will call them up to ask re: trainer to student ratio

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4B4B405B4D18101B1E290 link=1274411454/26#26 date=1277042724
    Can you pls be more specific, eg which barista course in Sydney.
    Personally, I recommend the Di Bartoli courses. You can have confidence that the trainers are professionals, active in their own businesses making coffee for customers on a daily basis. In most cases, the trainer is a former champion. Plus you stand a good chance of being able to work on the same equipment you have at home. They are also loads of fun!

    Id rather learn from a passionate professional than a trainer at a school whos pedigree and experience I have no idea of and may not be verifiable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0B0219000B060E630 link=1274411454/27#27 date=1277062757
    Personally, I recommend the Di Bartoli courses. You can have confidence that the trainers are professionals, active in their own businesses making coffee for customers on a daily basis. In most cases, the trainer is a former champion. Plus you stand a good chance of being able to work on the same equipment you have at home. They are also loads of fun!

    Id rather learn from a passionate professional than a trainer at a school whos pedigree and experience I have no idea of and may not be verifiable.
    SO true.. If ya can... Do teh above...

    Have been to a few at the outset of my quest...... Not worth the time other than to confirm that "Train The Trainer certification" and OR an Accredited course / School is nothing more than "TBM"...

    Not to say that all are as bad as the couple I went to... Or like that one in WA that was posted about..


    It comes down to Need / Want / Functionality..


    What equipment Vs What you have

    What you want to use it for Vs What they think you want it for..

    Black and or White


    If all you want is to know how to get teh best from your coffee machine...

    Fine a passionate professional (word of mouth / CS member / CS Sponsor ) who has had / owned and used the same unit... Even if they have moved on... Their experience and understanding is going to be worth 5 times as much; as you will get from any TAFE or School..

    May be harder to set up and costs will be open to local discussions.. But so much more rewarding....

    Later down the track; you will know more and be in a better position to ask and get what yoy want..

    As it is now... Your just an open Wallet/Purse and ready for picking...



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    Re: Barista course??? Any recommendations???

    My bf and I just did a private JetBlack home barista training this morning, and really enjoyed it. *It was tailored to our needs (mainly espresso and long black, not much milk) and we both felt we learnt a lot. *

    Weve now got the knowledge to start refining our skills at home, and have a good idea of what to look at when we get things wrong.

    I took my grinder in to practice on, and we could have taken our coffee machines in also, they just dont fit on the scooter! *

    All in all, Id recommend it. * *As expected, Im pretty wired now. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5054545C525E3B0 link=1274411454/29#29 date=1277103254
    My bf and I just did a private JetBlack home barista training this morning, and really enjoyed it. *It was tailored to our needs (mainly espresso and long black, not much milk) and we both felt we learnt a lot. *

    Weve now got the knowledge to start refining our skills at home, and have a good idea of what to look at when we get things wrong.

    I took my grinder in to practice on, and we could have taken our coffee machines in also, they just dont fit on the scooter! *

    All in all, Id recommend it. * *As expected, Im pretty wired now. :D
    WELL DONE..


    Ditch teh BF and ya can fit teh machine ;D

    Get the priorities right ;)

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    Well, i will take everyones advice. Will call up Di Bartoli tomorrow.

    Thanks again everyone :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1E31383A2D123E313E383A323A312B5F0 link=1274411454/30#30 date=1277107384

    WELL DONE..


    Ditch the BF and ya can fit the machine *;D

    Get the priorities right *;)
    Hmm, Im not sure hed agree with your priorities, but Ill bear it in mind! *;D

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    Re: Barista course??? Any recommendations???

    Hey guys, one more question.
    How is Di Bartoli compared to Jetblack? Both seems to have pretty positive feedback here in this forum.

    Any comment??

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3D3D362D3B6E666D685F0 link=1274411454/33#33 date=1277176850
    Hey guys, one more question.
    How is Di Bartoli compared to Jetblack? Both seems to have pretty positive feedback here in this forum.

    Any comment??

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    Theres a loaded question.

    I know Di Bartoli very well but Jetblack only by reputation and I wouldnt hesitate to recommend either.

    I suggest the positive feedback is there for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 407C617A707166737B70140 link=1274411454/34#34 date=1277179677
    Theres a loaded question.
    AND

    Quote Originally Posted by 407C617A707166737B70140 link=1274411454/34#34 date=1277179677
    I suggest the positive feedback is there for a reason.
    Ya look at teh obvious and then the Costs and then Location to you and if it is that close as to making a decision..

    Toss a coin..... Dont delay or procrastinate any longer..

    Make a decision and move forward :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 102C312A202136232B20440 link=1274411454/34#34 date=1277179677
    Theres a loaded question.
    Hear, hear.

    Quote Originally Posted by 052A23213609252A25232129212A30440 link=1274411454/35#35 date=1277180565
    Toss a coin.....
    ...or do both: Do a Home Barista course at one and a follow up one-on-one on commercial barista training with the other. I think Jetblack runs their Home Barista courses more regularly than Di Bartoli.

    I would call both up and discuss your needs with Ofra and Renzo at DB, or Debbie and Charlie at JB.

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    Re: Barista course??? Any recommendations???

    The choices....here in North Pole of QLD not much choice really hoping Di Bartoli comes up maybe.....ah well

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    Re: Barista course??? Any recommendations???

    Quote Originally Posted by 52424E4D4D4E5152210 link=1274411454/37#37 date=1277241927
    The choices....here in North Pole of QLD not much choice really hoping Di Bartoli comes up maybe.....ah well *
    Yes training has been one of a couple of sponsors and some interesting cupping and general coffee sessions....

    Only A few people doing one on one; where I would consider them as appropriate. However accessibility is a big issue....

    Lots of one or two hr coffee training sessions *and even vans plastered with Coffee Training */ Academy / *School adds etc etc... *But to be honest; on chatting to them etc... *If you were expecting any thing more than a TBM approach... FORGET IT...

    If a CS up here wants some real hands on... *JP (hard to get), May (no longer training), then it is a matter of turning up to a CS meet and greet and have others with skills pass on the tricks..

    We need some more support from a Supplier/Sponsor who is here for the long haul and not just some quick $$$$. *

    Equipment, Service, Training (real) and all the value added stuff that us snobs love...... And that some in business also need.


    PS. *Supreme Roasters do a dammed good job and for those unlucky ones down the Gold coast / FN NSW and or the south side *;D * you have something...

    Yes we have a few Bean suppliers and the odd shop window (machines) but nothing to get our teeth into.. *Oh... And dont ever try to get parts for a machine... Even a group seal is at best *CoffeeParts and delivery away..

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    Re: Barista course??? Any recommendations???

    Well said AM - must agree that the CS meets are the best place to learn and pick up tips and tricks certainly looking forward to the next one.

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    Re: Barista course??? Any recommendations???

    Quote Originally Posted by 08272E2C3B042827282E2C242C273D490 link=1274411454/38#38 date=1277248340
    PS.Supreme Roasters do a dammed good job and for those unlucky ones down the Gold coast / FN NSW and or the south sideGrin you have something..
    Thanks for the mention Am. I know we arent the closest to you North Siders but Id like to think we lay on the hospitality when people make the trip.

    Good things come with drives. ha :)


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    Quote Originally Posted by 4979626C637F6E7958626F6E0B0 link=1274411454/40#40 date=1277256411
    Quote Originally Posted by 08272E2C3B042827282E2C242C273D490 link=1274411454/38#38 date=1277248340
    PS.Supreme Roasters do a dammed good job and for those unlucky ones down the Gold coast / FN NSW and or the south sideGrin you have something..
    Thanks for the mention Am. I know we arent the closest to you North Siders but Id like to think we lay on the hospitality when people make the trip.

    Good things come with drives. ha *:)
    Rodger... Your the wedge and trust ya keep doing well......

    OT - Sorry.

    I would hate to count the number of times people PM me to ask the following:


    In the Brisbane Metro;

    1: where can they look at a range of machines

    2: Where can they get parts.. Group seals / Spacers / orings etc etc

    3: Where can they get service - Done and / or advice ?

    Short answer is - Ya cant if ya in Brisbane Metro..... At least not from teh one shop..


    Service and parts seem to be one of... We do the work so unless you give us your machine etc... Then you get parts on-line and wait for delivery. (Coffeeparts are great... BUT)

    The service, the parts and the equipment questions are all the triggers for; TRAINING and a total value added service delivery..

    The issue is that, there is NOT a great deal of $$$ unless ya turn over is high.... And like many systems today.. With out ongoing consumables (Beans) being part of ya turn over; the other stuff has to suffer...

    I still think there is a significant opening in Brisbane, for a established supplier to provide these Value added Services, including Training and not loose money...






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    looking for a barista training course in sydney

    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    Hi, im just starting out in the industry and would like to know who offers the best barista training in Sydney. I have found lots of places on the internet all claiming to be the best, so i was hoping to someone might be able to recommend something.

    Thanks



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