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    Dosing and Distribution Rituals

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    Im interested in a bit of a straw poll to know what peoples little rituals are for dosing and distribution on their setup.

    Ive played with a few different methods on my setup but these are the two methods I flip-flop between at the moment:

    1. Dosing by weight
    - Weigh out the dose on scales (usually about 18-18.5g depending on the bean) and add to bean hopper
    - Grind full volume and dose into the basket
    - Fluff up grounds using weiss distribution technique
    - Remove the funnel and tap a couple of times on the bench to settle
    - Tamp

    2. Dose by volume
    - Grind into basket until a little pile forms over the basket lip
    - Two gentle taps on the grinder forks
    - Dose into the basket until another little pile forms over the lip
    - Two more gentle taps on the grinder forks
    - Level off NSEW with a plastic card
    - Tamp

    I get reasonable results using either method as long as Im consistent. I seem to dose more into the basket (~20-20.5g) when using method 2 though. Ive also tried using weiss in method 2 and it works fine as well.

    Cheers,
    Sean.

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    Re: Dosing and Distribution Rituals

    Quote Originally Posted by 4C7A7E714C777A7A6F1F0 link=1277263958/0#0 date=1277263958
    Im interested in a bit of a straw poll to know what peoples little rituals are for dosing and distribution on their setup.

    Ive played with a few different methods on my setup but these are the two methods I flip-flop between at the moment:

    1. Dosing by weight
    - Weigh out the dose on scales (usually about 18-18.5g depending on the bean) and add to bean hopper
    - Grind full volume and dose into the basket
    - Fluff up grounds using weiss distribution technique
    - Remove the funnel and tap a couple of times on the bench to settle
    - Tamp

    2. Dose by volume
    - Grind into basket until a little pile forms over the basket lip
    - Two gentle taps on the grinder forks
    - Dose into the basket until another little pile forms over the lip
    - Two more gentle taps on the grinder forks
    - Level off NSEW with a plastic card
    - Tamp

    I get reasonable results using either method as long as Im consistent. I seem to dose more into the basket (~20-20.5g) when using method 2 though. Ive also tried using weiss in method 2 and it works fine as well.

    Cheers,
    Sean.
    At the moment Im using a method similar to the first you outline (weight) as opposed to volume, I find it improves consistency out of sight. :)

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    Re: Dosing and Distribution Rituals

    I dose by volume +/- WDT depending on the day. Scrape it off with a plastic card. Tap on mat. Tamp. And in it goes.

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    Re: Dosing and Distribution Rituals

    weight at home, volume at work.

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    For me it varies LOTS.

    Commercially I have been using volume but I do check the weight of that volume of beans from time to time but it is the look, time and flavour of the shot that govern tweaks. This is really because of the doser based grinders I have and the speed of getting the shots out that govern volume dosing. Quick level out by hand if needed, bang on the counter then tamp with a more traditional 10-15kg. No fancy distribution needed as I dont really have a channelling (55mm PFs), clumping or a left throw problem.

    Home playing with a very fine grind with the Pavoni which allows my to up the weight a bit from a traditional dose. More care is distributing but still by hand as several hard bangs on the wooden board and topped up if I think it needs it (need to buy a funnel from OPrphan Espresso) followed by a very light tamp of 2-3kg which is more of a finishing and leveling rather than a compaction of the grinds. For interest the pucks with a low tamp pressure like this are still as dry and firm as a more tradional method. I am not planning to go back to the "tradional" dose and tamp any time soon at home as this works better.

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    Re: Dosing and Distribution Rituals

    I voted mass as I check with scales but the M4D is of course timer driven

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    Re: Dosing and Distribution Rituals

    I use a volume measure in the filter basket (after tamping) to determine the required weight of each coffee bean & roast--then the rest of the bag is done by weight.

    Greg

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    Re: Dosing and Distribution Rituals

    Yeah its funny, I voted volume, but I do weight out about 19 grams of beans, grind it and free dose as its grinding, and depending on the bean or even just experimenting, I might grind finer with no collapsing of the basket, or coarser with 1-2 taps, refill, sweep level and tamp. So its still volume dosing im doing, as Im not grinding all my beans and putting it all in the basket, Im dosing it whilst filling up the whole basket, collapsing, sweeping etc...

    Youd think Id dose completely by mass for the consistency and my tendency to want to measure and control every single variable down to utter ridiculousness :D, but there you go ;)

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    Re: Dosing and Distribution Rituals

    Im a dose over the top of the basket, collapse once, sweep and tamp sorta guy.

    I had to change the way i approach dosing and tamping when i got my Dalla Corta Mini(54mm baskets) as overdosing often ends up causing the handle to not even fit under the head.

    I then had to change again when i got my Mini Mazzer(previously Mahlkonig grind on demand) which took some getting used to.

    At work though... Another Mahlkonig K30 twin so ther is little do other than distrubute the grinds evenly before tamping.

    I am yet to weigh either though...something i will try to get around to doing over the next week :)

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    Re: Dosing and Distribution Rituals

    I grind into a plastic canister then dose what I think looks the right amount into the basket, tap it down, run the needle around in the basket, tap it down again then tamp hard until it is the right level in the basket. If it doesnt look right I dump it back into the canister and use less or more grounds in the next attempt. I find overdosing or underdosing has a big impact on the quality of the pour, and likewise tamp pressure, so I am meticulous with the process.

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    Re: Dosing and Distribution Rituals

    "Dosing by weight rather than volume reveals a lack of understanding"

    Instaurator - The Espresso Quest

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    Re: Dosing and Distribution Rituals

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    Quote Originally Posted by 606566737362756B627E070 link=1277263958/10#10 date=1278480099
    "Dosing by weight rather than volume reveals a lack of understanding"
    Also results in very consistant shots ;) as well as revealing something about the persons personality, ::)



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