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    SMH anti coffee article.

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    Just picked up on this load of rubbish
    http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/confessions-of-a-former-bitchy-barista-20100705-zx13.html
    Could be an idea for a few Snobs to comment and set the record straight. >:(

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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1278368406/0#0

    Snap!

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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    Quote Originally Posted by 073B322A3F5E0 link=1278375858/0#0 date=1278375858
    Could be an idea for a few Snobs to comment and set the record straight.
    And have my credibility challenged because Im not a barista or a journalist? :P

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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    Quote Originally Posted by 734F5249434255404843270 link=1278375858/2#2 date=1278377812
    Quote Originally Posted by 073B322A3F5E0 link=1278375858/0#0 date=1278375858
    Could be an idea for a few Snobs to comment and set the record straight.
    And have my credibility challenged because Im not a barista or a journalist? *:P
    You have credibility? :D

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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    care factor 0 NOW WHERES MY DOUBLE SHOT :D

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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3A060F1702630 link=1278375858/3#3 date=1278378200
    You have credibility?
    Obviously not.

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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    Quote Originally Posted by 5F637E656F6E796C646F0B0 link=1278375858/5#5 date=1278397845
    Quote Originally Posted by 3A060F1702630 link=1278375858/3#3 date=1278378200
    You have credibility?
    Obviously not.
    Perhaps too much caffeine. :)

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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    What a load of BOLLOCKS :D :D

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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2E2A3124372A450 link=1278375858/7#7 date=1278398691
    What a load of BOLLOCKS :D :D
    The article or my credibility?

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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    **HES A STUDENT!**

    Not you, TG.

    Greg
    BTW, try this:
    Coffee Can Prevent Certain Types of Cancer, New US Study Says
    Drinking coffee may reduce a persons chances of developing oral cancer and even brain tumors.

    http://naturalhealthontheweb.com/mangano-minute/blogs/?p=1465

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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    Quote Originally Posted by 44716664546C716E626F67030 link=1278375858/9#9 date=1278420673
    Drinking coffee may reduce a persons chances of developing oral cancer and even brain tumors.
    Ive had a brain tumour.

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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    Quote Originally Posted by 56637476467E637C707D75110 link=1278375858/9#9 date=1278420673
    *HES A STUDENT!**
    actually he is a she and the outlet that she works in does have some cred - it kept me going for I dont know how many years

    but...

    shes a journalism student and if you read any of her other posts on her blog many are tongue in cheek... I wouldnt take it too seriously!

    besides which it appears to me that the article itself consists of a clipping from SEVERAL of her posts, so it looks like a cut and paste job to me - theres journalistic integrity for you!

    ACg

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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    Ya know what i think?

    I think she is kinda right I had a laugh. I recently went 3 days without coffee and ill agree with the bad headaches and sometime feeling nautious.

    I have to say...most mornings i zombie my way to my already hot espresso machine to have a double espresso to start the day...is it because i stayed up till 2:30am and only got 6 hours sleep that i feel tired ? or is coffee to blame for me staying up that late to begin with?

    The other thing i commend her on is being able to confess to being a "bitchy" barista. Something i rarely hear coming from the lips of any barista.

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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    Sadly i have had the same experience with going off caffine for a couple of weeks. I could not believe how much more clarity and focus i had once the headaches and nausea had gone.
    I am still drinking espresso though because it is my job to taste all day. But i have this nagging feeling at the back of my mind that i will eventully have to chuck in the towel with a job i love, because i feel i am blundering away the days in a cafffine haze. Its only when you go off it for an extended period do you realise how important clarity of mind and focus is to you.



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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    I disagree with this "caffeine haze" some of you are talking about.

    Maybe you have a low tolerance and merely need to cut back a little.

    I drink 3 doubles a day and have not noticed any difference to the time a few years ago where I stopped drinking coffee, cold turkey, for 3 months.

    The reason I stopped for so long, for those that dont know, is that Id been into hospital for an operation and was unable stomach much food or drink for the following week.
    I didnt have a machine at home back then so accessing anything other than instant was nigh on impossible as I was also unable to walk unaided for quite some time.
    If I couldnt get a decent coffee I preferred to go without.

    When I finally got back on my feet and back to work after 3 months, I went back to drinking coffee and as previously stated, noticed no difference in my focus.

    Being an auditor I need to focus for work; being a karate black belt, I am quite aware of my focus.

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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    Quote Originally Posted by 7A465B404A4B5C49414A2E0 link=1278375858/14#14 date=1278771430
    I disagree with this "caffeine haze" some of you are talking about.
    Im with you on this, TG.

    While my *average* consumption would be between 2 and 3 double ristrettos a day, I often have a day or two off due to my working venues having only instant available. I never notice a difference at all--I drink coffee for the superb flavour.

    Even at home, it is not unusual for me to get busy doing something while the machine is heating up in the morning, and only remember to have a coffee in mid-afternoon.

    Greg


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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    Or...
    Quote Originally Posted by 74415654645C415E525F57330 link=1278375858/15#15 date=1278773645
    only remember
    ...as you are walking out the door and have to switch it off again *>:(

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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    Quote Originally Posted by 596C7B7949716C737F727A1E0 link=1278375858/15#15 date=1278773645
    Quote Originally Posted by 7A465B404A4B5C49414A2E0 link=1278375858/14#14 date=1278771430
    I disagree with this "caffeine haze" some of you are talking about.
    Im with you on this, TG.

    While my *average* consumption would be between 2 and 3 double ristrettos a day, I often have a day or two off due to my working venues having only instant available. I never notice a difference at all--I drink coffee for the superb flavour.

    Even at home, it is not unusual for me to get busy doing something while the machine is heating up in the morning, and only remember to have a coffee in mid-afternoon.

    Greg
    I agree with TG and Greg, my daily intake is similar 3 doubles, I frequently travel, and am away from home for two or three nights, during these trips my caffeine input drops to almost zero, no sign of a "caffeine haze" for me.
    Like Greg, I drink coffee because I enjoy it not because I need it.
    Perhaps as TG suggests, some of us may have a lower tolerance to caffeine than others. :)

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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    Quote Originally Posted by 6F7F7D6E79651C0 link=1278375858/16#16 date=1278796800
    Or...
    Quote Originally Posted by 74415654645C415E525F57330 link=1278375858/15#15 date=1278773645
    only remember
    ...as you are walking out the door and have to switch it off again *>:(
    ;D ;D ;D ;D
    I wish I could say thats never happened!
    Greg

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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    Quote Originally Posted by 71485658627A3D0 link=1278375858/12#12 date=1278642732
    Ya know what i think?

    The other thing i commend her on is being able to confess to being a "bitchy" barista. Something i rarely hear coming from the lips of any barista.
    Are you saying youre surrounded by "bitchy" baristas, Luke? Maybe they dont say it because they arent one?

    That must be just a city trait then. Id have thought that seeing as were in the business of pleasing people, we couldnt afford to be that way and its in our best interests to give a smile, a kind word for the day and even greet people nicely. Isnt that what were supposed to do? Is it becoming the norm on the coast to not be nice to people any more when serving?

    I certainly dont consider myself to be a "bitchy" barista and so youll never hear it come from my lips that I am. ::)

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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    you know what I often drink five to seven doubles a day or more and have attributed my not inconsiderable headaches when Im off the stuff (usually one day per week!) to the absence of the golden nectar

    but...

    I never used to get the headaches prior to kids (and very little sleep at times) AND after a recent osteopathic treatment to bring my back into shape, combined with taking some mag phos cell salts MY HEADACHES HAVE ALL BUT DISAPPEARED!!!

    ANd Im still drinking five to seven doubles on a good day with no obvious adverse results - which makes me think that its worth looking at the bigger picture when it comes to heath and not just isolating one aspect and saying: thats it

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    Re: SMH anti coffee article.

    Call me a cynic, but as soon as I read the article, I couldnt help but latch onto the closing sentence of the article:

    "Meghan Lodwick is a barista and journalism student at La Trobe University."

    Which equates in my mind to...

    Article about caffeine + embellishment of its effects = hope of transitioning from free-lance contributor to Journalist on SMHs payroll *::)

    Sorry, Im not normally this cynical. *Perhaps its because five hours has passed since my last double-shot flat white *;) ;D

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    Re: SMH anti coffee arti

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6D4148484B4B717F5B4F48484B5C2E0 link=1278375858/21#21 date=1278921819
    "Meghan Lodwick is a barista and journalism student at La Trobe University."
    Meghan certainly ticks a couple of the boxes to be a successful journo, she has a vivid imagination and she certainly is not afraid of letting the truth get in the way of a good story ;)
    Having said that I just spent a little time here http://steaming.wordpress.com/about/ "her blog" makes interesting reading, she certainly has a handle on the coffee industry (others will disagree) and an easy to read style. :)



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