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    All about caffeine

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    I dont know what sort of reception this will get from the CS Sceptics Society but if it deserves to be challenged...

    Caffeine

    Has a caffeine calculator:

    Your total caffeine intake was 252 mg.

    Your caffeine intake is within the levels recommended by NSW Health for safe caffeine consumption.

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    Re: All about caffeine

    This is from the site:

    Research shows that most adults can consume up to 400 mg of caffeine per day, without negatively affecting their health in terms of toxicity (poisoning), cardiovascular health, bone and calcium status, behaviour, cancer, or male fertility.

    then this was for me:

    Your total caffeine intake was 572 mg.

    Your caffeine intake [i]is within the levels recommended [/i]by NSW Health for safe caffeine consumption.

    I think caffeine tolerance is an individual thing, I can usually tell when I am having too much coffee. Other than not being able to sleep!! :D

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    Re: All about caffeine

    Quote Originally Posted by 6D677265656A7E780B0 link=1278455985/0#0 date=1278455985
    I dont know what sort of reception this will get from the CS Sceptics Society but if it deserves to be challenged...

    Caffeine

    Has a caffeine calculator:

    Your total caffeine intake was 252 mg.

    Your caffeine intake is within the levels recommended by NSW Health for safe caffeine consumption.
    Oh dear, here we go again. ::)

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    Re: All about caffeine

    Quote Originally Posted by 7D41485045240 link=1278455985/2#2 date=1278458840
    Oh dear, here we go again.
    Read my first line Jon. Have you dismissed this as crap before even looking at it?

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    Re: All about caffeine

    Mine came up 768 mg.

    Im a big guy so I suppose like alcohol, weight should play a factor in results.
    In this case it doesnt; no matter what weight I told the calculator it still said my intake was above recommended levels.

    On a side note, why ask for Name and Weight (if they dont affect the result)?

    P.S. I didnt try changing my name to affect the result.

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    Woo-hoo! Im 756mg...Im on fire! *:)

    Coffee has absolutely no obviously outward affect on me unless I have one after 6.30pm, then I have trouble getting to sleep.

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    Re: All about caffeine

    Quote Originally Posted by 2A203522222D393F4C0 link=1278455985/3#3 date=1278458991
    Quote Originally Posted by 7D41485045240 link=1278455985/2#2 date=1278458840
    Oh dear, here we go again.
    Read my first line Jon. Have you dismissed this as crap before even looking at it?
    Not referring to your post Flynn simply the fact that we are seeing another conflicting report on the affects of caffeine.
    Certainly didnt dismiss it as crap, did the test and it told me 3 cups of espresso a day put me over the limit.
    Did the test once, it told me I was over the limit at just over 400mg, did it a second time, same inputs and it came up with 606mg :-? *

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    Re: All about caffeine

    Quote Originally Posted by 5E626B7366070 link=1278455985/6#6 date=1278460709
    Not referring to your post Flynn simply the fact that we are seeing another conflicting report on the affects of caffeine.
    Well alright then. Ill let you off this time ... but Ive got my eye on you. >:( ;D ;D

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    Since when is an espresso 200ml?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 66585F546E5E576E4559546E7354505F310 link=1278455985/8#8 date=1278461897
    Since when is an espresso 200ml?!?
    I thought the same so treated long black and espresso as the same, like all of these things poorly researched, in other words flawed, someone is probably proud as punch about having created it and being paid mega bucks for the effort. >:(

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    Re: All about caffeine

    I got 1180mg

    388mg from an espresso?

    http://coffeetea.about.com/library/blcaffeine.htm
    Lists a double espresso as 45-100mg.
    Calculating from that I get 210-440mg for my daily intake.
    Big difference.

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    Also if you ask for a long black at a shop with an espresso machine you generally get a cup a hot water with an espresso shot in it.
    Therefore shouldnt an espresso (388mg) be the same as a long black (202mg)?

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    Gees you guys are cynics. ::) its only a guide but if you look underneath there are 8 (count em) reference citations. I still wouldnt take it as gospel, just like any online health advice.

    Yes, you wouldnt have a 200ml espresso but you can calculate it pro rata e.g. of you drink two 25ml shots a day then enter .25 in the calculator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5866616A506069507B676A504D6A6E610F0 link=1278455985/8#8 date=1278461897
    Since when is an espresso 200ml?!?
    When using pre-ground and you get distracted for a couple of seconds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 78726770707F6B6D1E0 link=1278455985/12#12 date=1278463091
    Gees you guys are cynics. *::) its only a guide but if you look underneath there are 8 (count em) reference citations. I still wouldnt take it as gospel, just like any online health advice.

    Yes, you wouldnt have a 200ml espresso but you can calculate it pro rata e.g. of you drink two 25ml shots a day then enter .25 in the calculator.
    To question is healthy and intelligent, blind acceptance without question is dangerous. :)

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    Re: All about caffeine

    Quote Originally Posted by 252F3A2D2D223630430 link=1278455985/12#12 date=1278463091
    Gees you guys are cynics. *::) its only a guide but if you look underneath there are 8 (count em) reference citations. I still wouldnt take it as gospel, just like any online health advice.

    Yes, you wouldnt have a 200ml espresso but you can calculate it pro rata e.g. of you drink two 25ml shots a day then enter .25 in the calculator.
    A guide or what ?

    With the gross miss direction as to the size of the drink VS Shot size...

    Then that will only shock and confuse 99% of the people who take the test; as the whole layout look as if it is a real professional site and that, thus it has to be true...


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    Coffee - instant *200ml * 62mg *

    Coffee - long black 200ml * 202mg

    So by adding water I triple my caffeine intake.. *giggled like a schoolgirl.

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    I think I will go an have another 200ml Espresso... Now how do I make one of these ?


    PS. The Quality in me... Meant I had to use the feedback function on the site and ask them to please explain ;) Some of their data etc...

    Not holding my breath ::)

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    Coffee - espresso *200ml * * 388mg *love to see the size of the PF to make one of those ;D

    No tab for Brewed coffees which have more Caffeine per cup than espresso, whoever wrote it has NFI

    Just sent their feedback email address a spray ;D

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    Yeah, OK. I guess that answers the first line in my OP.

    Sorry to generate so much outrage :-X

    I will go out and order some sort of crappuccino concoction from McCafe or Starbucks for my penance. Whats the caffeine count for that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 32382D3A3A352127540 link=1278455985/17#17 date=1278470642
    Yeah, OK. I guess that answers the first line in my OP.

    Sorry to generate so much outrage * :-X


    No Outrage... Just a good Laugh


    I will go out and order some sort of crappuccino concoction from McCafe or Starbucks for my penance. Whats the caffeine count for that?
    0 its all syrup flavoured *;D

    Context and Fit for purpose *;)

    See one of the reference links http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/factsheets/drugandalcohol/caffeine.html *(2007)

    The context was not identified in the calculator and the MAX amount possible looks to be used; thus the usual lack of detail when attempting to get something out.. *Or just an anti caffine push...

    A few mins more of thought and contacting a coffee person would have allowed a few drop downs / options in the caculator and a better outcome for all.

    And further evidence that they did not bother to look to hard at their own data sources..

    The other reference site: http://cerhr.niehs.nih.gov/common/caffeine.html

    MILLIGRAMS OF CAFFEINE -

    Coffee (8 fl. oz. Cup)

    ITEM TYPICAL RANGE
    Brewed, drip method 85 65 - 120
    Brewed, percolator 75 60 - 85
    Decaffeinated, brewed 3 2 - 4
    Espresso (1 fl. oz. serving) 40 30 - 50

    Teas (8 fl. oz. cup)

    Brewed 40 20 - 90
    Instant 28 24 - 31
    Iced (8 fl. oz. glass) 25 9 - 50
    Some soft drinks (8 fl. oz.) 24 20 - 40

    "Energy drinks" 80 0 - 80
    Cocoa beverage (8 fl. oz.) 6 3 - 32
    Chocolate milk beverage (8 fl. oz.) 5 2 - 7
    Milk chocolate (1 oz.) 6 1 - 15
    Dark chocolate, semi-sweet (1 oz.) 20 5 - 35
    Bakers chocolate (1 oz.) 26 26
    Chocolate-flavored syrup (1 fl. oz.) 4 4

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    Re: All about caffeine

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4B415443434C585E2D0 link=1278455985/17#17 date=1278470642
    I will go out and order some sort of crappuccino concoction from McCafe or Starbucks for my penance. Whats the caffeine count for that?
    I think zero.
    They use frogs not coffee as far as I can tell from their advertising.



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