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    Nespresso pods

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    Wow - I am brand new today and there is SO MUCH stuff here! Mind boggling!

    Is it true that the Nepresso pods contain chemicals to make them taste "fresh"?

    We went to The Good Guys yesterday to look over the latest espresso beasties and the sales guy could not get past Nespresso.

    No mess, always fresh, many flavours, cheap as chips... ;D

    No-one will get me off my beans but what is IN those pods? Anyone know? :-[

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    Re: Nespresso pods

    I have been using Nespresso pods pretty much since they were released in Australia so that is a heck of a long time. Dont know about cheap but the pods are pretty darn good. Unfortunately, their mainstream machines are not really geared to quality-usually only lasts 2-3 years before problems. In their coffee I dont think its chemicals but they may inject the pods with an inert gas to preserve shelflife.

    I switched from the "darkside" (or maybe to the darkside :P) several months ago and went with an E61 machine and freshly ground beans. After a very steep learning curve, lots of mess and awful tasting coffee - I am glad I made the switch. Just no comparison. Like comparing cask wine to fine wine. Nespresso which I still have in the office tastes very bland by comparison.

    That is also why I made the switch. I could no longer taste what I was drinking.

    However, if you have a bad day you can make coffee much worse than a Nespresso. If you have a good day then there is no comparison in the cup. ;D

    Good Luck

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    Re: Nespresso pods

    I bought one of the Latissimas when they first came out.

    As johntaus also said they are "nice" until you try a freshly ground bean coffee - then they dont compare.

    My machine has decided to give up the milk making section - so it has been banished to my pantry. Might "gift" ;D it to my Dad since I now have my Musica.

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    Re: Nespresso pods

    Quote Originally Posted by 2321303421292E232F26262525400 link=1302570827/0#0 date=1302570827
    No mess, always fresh, many flavours, cheap as chips...
    Of course that should read...

    No mess, never fresh, many flavours, cheap as chips...
    ...along with something about the nasty environmental impact!
    ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by 2321303421292E232F26262525400 link=1302570827/0#0 date=1302570827
    but what is IN those pods? Anyone know?
    No reason to think its anything in there apart from coffee. I have heard a rumour that they mix instant coffee with grounds to give it a boost but I dont know for sure. That would make some sense as I cannot see how such a small shot size could yeild enough flavour for a cup.

    I would also assume they use nitrogen to flush out the air to help keep them the same for longer. Thats typical practice for anyone who wants their product to sit on a shelf (or a boat) for long lengths of time.

    While Im making assumptions, I would also say that they stale the beans before packing else the capsules would explode. If you have ever sealed fresh roasted coffee in a bag without a one-way valve that point would be pretty obvious.

    Having said all that, they have their place and like johntaus and kyton have found if you use it for a stepping stone between instant and real coffee then its just part of your journey to a better brew.

    8-)

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    Re: Nespresso pods

    Welcome here Captain.

    I have tried pods twice at a demo and it tasted stale to me. I don’t know what Nestle put in their pods besides coffee, perhaps nitrogen gas to reduce oxidation, but I believe that any old pre-ground coffee is stale coffee.


    I believe the best way to get the “fresh” taste of coffee is to use fresh coffee.

    Many CoffeeSnobs here will tell you:
    Green coffee is fresh for about 3 years, roasted coffee is fresh for about 3 weeks and ground coffee is at its best for about 3 minutes.

    Taste is a personal thing. Most people are quite happy to drink instant coffee. There was a time when I was happy to drink it, but I am sworn off instant now.

    I have been roasting my own coffee for over 10 years and bought freshly roasted beans for a while before that.

    Try some coffee out of a machine using fresh coffee grounds, maybe at a Site Sponsor near you, to compare it with the pods.

    Compare the cost of the coffee. I don’t think that the pods are cheap. Also you are stuck with the one coffee provider.

    Finally decide what coffee and brewing method you like and buy it.

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    Re: Nespresso pods

    Quote Originally Posted by 725D574A330 link=1302570827/3#3 date=1302574942
    While Im making assumptions, I would also say that they stale the beans before packing else the capsules would explode. If you have ever sealed fresh roasted coffee in a bag without a one-way valve that point would be pretty obvious.
    Not so,
    That would only happen if they didnt let the beans degass before grinding them.

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    Re: Nespresso pods

    Quote Originally Posted by 203B3224272A530 link=1302570827/5#5 date=1302577223
    Quote Originally Posted by 725D574A330 link=1302570827/3#3 date=1302574942
    While Im making assumptions, I would also say that they stale the beans before packing else the capsules would explode.* If you have ever sealed fresh roasted coffee in a bag without a one-way valve that point would be pretty obvious.
    Not so,
    That would only happen if they didnt let the beans degass before grinding them.
    Im pretty sure Andy said what you mean.
    Thats the way I read it anyway.

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    Re: Nespresso pods

    Quote Originally Posted by 6F404A572E0 link=1302570827/3#3 date=1302574942
    I have heard a rumour that they mix instant coffee with grounds to give it a boost
    I dont know either and have never tasted the stuff, BUT... my wife and I were at a dinner party and the host was very excited about his guests having a cup of noespresso after dinner. We both declined but others had it (while I bit my tongue - ouch, painful!). Jules and I both said afterwards that it smelled just like instant coffee.

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    Re: Nespresso pods

    Ive no experience at all with pods but for those that have, is it true that the pods retail for about 75c each and contain about 5.5g of coffee?

    If so, youre looking at something like $130 a kg.

    You have to hand it to their marketing team..........

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    Re: Nespresso pods

    it is about $80.00 for 100 that is closer to $160 a Kg but my wife is happy with the pods.

    I spent las than $60 on bean bay for 5Kg of greens. ;D

    if you do the maths a machine $350 and 80 cents a cup for an easy brainless cup of coffee that is an improvement on instant.* *::)

    or some people have $3500 worth of gear and pay about 10 cents a cup and then have to pay attention to detail but they do get better coffee.

    both solutions have the potential to save money on $3.00 a cup that MacDonalds make

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    Re: Nespresso pods

    Wow! Thanks guys! Helps me somewhat. I was trying to talk my neighbour into using real coffee and she came home with a Nespresso. We are just beginning to talk again.

    I had heard that they put chemicals in to boost the taste but I have no hard knowledge of that.

    Interesting maths! I wont ever feel bad at $34.00 a KG ever again! Especially as it tastes so good!* :D

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    Re: Nespresso pods

    I grabbed some nespresso pods and ripped them open and tried to make espresso in my gpp with them, I took some photos and compared it to fresh beans.. I should get around to writing about it.

    The coffee was stale and ground way too course, which was interesting in itself, I also needed about 3 or 4 to fill the portafilter.

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    Re: Nespresso pods

    Quote Originally Posted by 57554440555D5A575B52525151340 link=1302570827/10#10 date=1302671108
    I was trying to talk my neighbour into using real coffee and she came home with a Nespresso.
    I have noticed that while the discount and department stores have the odd useful Breville or Sunbeam, they tend to cover their benches mainly with super autos and pod or capsule machines.

    I expect that they push them onto the poor public who crave to drink something better than instant but don’t know what machine is best for them.

    There must be more money for the stores to make from pod and auto machines than from real coffee espresso machines or they don’t employ people with knowledge about coffee. Unlike CS Sponsors.*

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    Re: Nespresso pods

    My assumption (and it is purely that), is that the pure convenience of this type of machine makes it an easy sell, for a lazy (or busy) salesman/woman.

    The line the OP mentioned "no mess, always fresh, heaps of flavourns and cheap as chips" is pretty much word for word what Ive heard at my local electrical retailer...

    They have their place, but you can do a lot better, and it doesnt have to involve spending thousands either.* A lot of the Breville/Sunbeam entry models are adequately capable with the right setup and a bit of practice.

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    Re: Nespresso pods

    Quote Originally Posted by 63666A6E62696F30070 link=1302570827/13#13 date=1302760689
    "no mess, always fresh, heaps of flavourns and cheap as chips"
    ...and if youre gullible enough to take that bait, you probably deserve to end up in the pan... ;D

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    Re: Nespresso pods

    My wifes due with our third child, and Im going to get her a Nespresso in place of the current Sunbeam cafe series, simply for ease of use. Shell be busy enough without having to deal with grinding, tamping, frothing and then all the clean up.
    It wont have the same quality, but its about ease of use for her.

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    Re: Nespresso pods

    I tend to agree that the main selling point for a Nespresso or other pod-based machine is the ease and speed of use. The target customer is the coffee-lover who is wanting to move up to something better than Instant but has not yet reached the point where he must have Espresso machine coffee. I think it is a stage on a journey and most who buy Pod machines will eventually move on to an Espresso machine. If they didnt want something better they would have stayed with Instant - many do. Personally, I think the pods are inferior to dripolator coffee and certainly plunger coffee. I would think there has to be some sort of enhancement of whatever is in the pod to get anything resembling a shot of coffee out of it. Just imagine what you would get in your shot from that quantity of grind in an Espresso machine.

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    Re: Nespresso pods

    We have a pod like machine (dont think its nespresso though, more UFO shape) at work as well as an auto that grinds beans fresh. Neither of them make very good cappuccino as they cant get the milk right, but I dont think the pods taste very nice. The beans in the auto are probably stale, but are still a fair bit better. I agree, theyre great marketing though.

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    Re: Nespresso pods

    OT maybe, but whats with the layers of coffee and milk in the cup that you often see in the ads for these auto machines? [smiley=huh.gif]

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    Re: Nespresso pods

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2620373C2621393B520 link=1302570827/11#11 date=1302685176
    I grabbed some nespresso pods and ripped them open and tried to make espresso in my Giotto Premium Pro with them, I took some photos and compared it to fresh beans.. I should get around to writing about it.

    The coffee was stale and ground way too course, which was interesting in itself, I also needed about 3 or 4 to fill the portafilter.
    Pointless test. The nespresso machines will have the equivalent of a dual wall basket so that brew pressures increase enough and pour times are slow enough to extract all the flavor out of the beans. We dont like dual wall baskets as they ruin our fresh coffee but with stale coffee you wont get any flavor out of the beans if you didnt have the dual wall. Im not making an argument for the pods but I think we have to be fair.

    My experience with pods is that they are plain and bland. Very weak and most people that drink them would need 2 a cup making each coffee rather expensive.

    We can complain about them as much as we like but they definitely have a place in the market. For most they are consistent have acceptable taste and are easy and convenient. Sometimes that is enough. Kinda like people that use spaghetti sauces out of a jar or even fresh pasta/dry pasta.

    The reality is most people that buy coffee machines use them for a few months but then put them away to the back of the pantry because they cant be bothered with the hassle. Throwing a $300 nespresso machine into the back of the cupboard hurts a little less than throwing an espresso machine and grinder at at least twice that price back there. I guess im saying that the coffeesnobs way is not the best way for some.



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