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    Coffee for those with Stomach sensitivity

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    Hi Everyone,

    Wow, well Ive clearly found the forum where the experts hang out. Im just dying for some coffee and I have a feeling you can all help.

    I moved to Australia (Melbourne) almost a year and half ago (from Canada) and discovered how passionate Aussies are about coffee. I thought I knew coffee, but clearly I dont know anything! :)

    My problem is this: Ive had to stop drinking coffee for years now because it bothered my stomach. I would feel sick to my stomach for hours after drinking coffee.

    I still miss it every morning, and now that Im in a country where people know coffee so well, Im hoping that with your help I can start drinking again.

    I know this is a very complex question. I generally do not agree with acidic foods, so my guess is that a coffee that would be low in acidity would be the key. The other trouble is that Im used to simple filter dripped coffees. I havent even seen one of those machines here. All Ive seen are the fancy espresso type machines. I need to experiment somehow without buying an expensive machine as Im not sure if its going to work.

    Any thoughts?

    Thanks so very much!!

    Al

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    Re: Coffee for those with Stomach sensitivity

    Coffee in itself isnt really acidic. People refer to it as "acidic" but really its not like its orange juice etc. Id be interested to know the exact pH, but according to my 5 minutes of Google reasearch, it seems like its more neutral than acidic, and varies from bean to bean (dry processed beans being lower in acidity, and darker roasts being lower in acidity).

    You can buy drip coffee machines from Target etc, and from memory they are only about $30.

    Now, for the stomach issue....I doubt it would be an issue directly with the coffee, but could be the caffeine itself. Have you tried decaf?? Just make sure its swiss water process decaf (ie no chemical decaffeination) and it should be fine. If thats the case then you could roast it yourself from Beanbay, or buy 1kg bags for $42.

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    Re: Coffee for those with Stomach sensitivity

    Quote Originally Posted by 5544454E5340210 link=1302596434/0#0 date=1302596434
    a coffee that would be low in acidity would be the key
    Try making your coffee using the Cold Press/Process method. A search for those terms or CP on here will start you down the path to less acidic, smoother, and more flavorful coffee.
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    Re: Coffee for those with Stomach sensitivity

    Quote Originally Posted by 27383A20392C3B3A2D550 link=1302596434/1#1 date=1302597132
    Coffee in itself isnt really acidic. People refer to it as "acidic" but really its not like its orange juice etc. Id be interested to know the exact pH, but according to my 5 minutes of Google reasearch, it seems like its more neutral than acidic, and varies from bean to bean (dry processed beans being lower in acidity, and darker roasts being lower in acidity).
    Hi RichardM,

    Thank you for your advice. One question: you mis-typed I think... You said dry processed and darker roasts are both lower in acidity. Which is it? :)

    Im sure I have tried the swiss water decaf, but Ill try it again and see how that goes. Im not really after the caffeine anyway - just the flavour. Thank you.

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    Re: Coffee for those with Stomach sensitivity

    Go to one of the sponsors who make coffee to drink, and order a doppio ristretto.

    It should be sweet enough to drink without sugar, and smooth without milk. It will be very short (less than 30 ml), and quite strong. Drink.

    Wait and see how you it affects you. If this is OK, then coffee is fine.

    In general, espresso is taken for the taste and not to quench the thirst.

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    Re: Coffee for those with Stomach sensitivity

    my wife had had a very grizzly tummy for years but it passed it could also be lifestyle issues.

    Do you have milk with your coffee? some people dont tolerate milk well.

    The plungers from the discount department stores are quite a cheap way to start.

    Fresh roasted coffee is a very different product to most commercial coffee (especially from a supermarket).

    All you can do is give it a try (and listen to your body)

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    Re: Coffee for those with Stomach sensitivity

    Ive made coffee for a couple of people that said coffee didnt agree with them; one even said it made him ill.
    He was upset that he couldnt drink coffee with the rest of the family as it was a cultural thing for them.

    My theory is that for some people its not coffee that upsets them but badly made coffee.

    Both of those people agreed to try my coffee and one was still telling me months later (she moved away) that she remembered how wonderful my coffee had been and the other was not made sick by my coffee and is seeking out places that really know about coffee and can make it well so that it wont make him ill.

    Both of these people may be a little more sensitive to coffee and or milk than others but I make good coffee and it didnt make them ill.

    I agree with Greg that you should seek out a site sponsor (we trust them) to make you a good coffee.
    If that doesnt bother you it may be a lactose intolerance if you take milk.

    Once you narrow down the cause youll be on your way to an answer.

    By the way, where are you located? (Please update your profile)

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    Re: Coffee for those with Stomach sensitivity

    Hey there Al G... welcome to CS

    Like you, I also happen to be a Canadian who has resettled in the Melbourne area

    And, like you, I used to get a really nasty tummy from drinking coffee... but... that was only because (as I later discovered) I had been subjecting my innards to the evil brew they call coffee back home. Most of the drip brewed sludge served at Tim Hortons (and other similar places) could be used as paint stripper. Luckily enough I have been here for more than a decade now and have learned what good coffee is all about. Now I can drink my coffee anyway I like, and pretty much all day long, without suffering any ill effects

    I would encourage you to get your hands on a decent machine, a good grinder and some great coffee

    I would be happy to shout a bag to a fellow Canuck to get you started so just send me your contact info via a PM if interested eh ;)

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    Re: Coffee for those with Stomach sensitivity

    Quote Originally Posted by 2B3A3B302D3E5F0 link=1302596434/3#3 date=1302612732
    One question: you mis-typed I think... You said dry processed and darker roasts are both lower in acidity.* Which is it?*
    Both. I didnt mis-type.

    One is a way of processing the bean when its green. One is the way its roasted.

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    Re: Coffee for those with Stomach sensitivity

    There are multitudes of possible causes of the stomach problems, I agree that the issue may have been due to poor quality coffee and/or milk intolerance, possibly other factors also.

    Many years ago I used to have some stomach discomfort after drinking stale coffee, (particularly instant coffee...before I became a CS), since I switched to fresh coffee, that is recently roasted and freshly ground, I have never had the same problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3A313001303F372C305E0 link=1302596434/5#5 date=1302616425
    Do you have milk with your coffee? some people dont tolerate milk well.

    The plungers from the discount department stores are quite a cheap way to start.

    Fresh roasted coffee is a very different product to most commercial coffee (especially from a supermarket).

    All you can do is give it a try (and listen to your body)
    I do have milk/dairy intolerance, but Ive known that for years so substitue soy milk when needed. I cant even say that Ive ever had a fresh roasted coffee - although Startbucks would count I imagine. Most of the coffee ive tried has been supermarket coffee and most of the coffee Ive experimented with recently to see if I could tolerate coffee was instant. I had no idea there was such a substance difference - I had thought it was about taste. Im learning a lot :) Thank you!

    So keeping in mind that my goal at the moment is to see if I can tolerate the coffee, how much does the machine make a difference would you say? Clearly there would be a taste difference, but should I only be sampling coffee made from good machines or does it matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13263133033B2639353830540 link=1302596434/4#4 date=1302615747
    It should be sweet enough to drink without sugar, and smooth without milk. It will be very short (less than 30 ml), and quite strong. Drink.

    Wait and see how you it affects you. If this is OK, then coffee is fine.
    That sounds like a good simple test... Thank you!

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    Re: Coffee for those with Stomach sensitivity

    Quote Originally Posted by 615D405B515047525A51350 link=1302596434/6#6 date=1302622534
    By the way, where are you located? (Please update your profile)
    Thanks - Ive updated my profile. More specifically I live in the St Kilda / Elwood area. Anyone have any suggestions of where to go for a good coffee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2A3B3A312C3F5E0 link=1302596434/10#10 date=1302683083

    I do have milk/dairy intolerance, but Ive known that for years so substitue soy milk when needed.* I cant even say that Ive ever had a fresh roasted coffee - although Startbucks would count I imagine.* Most of the coffee ive tried has been supermarket coffee and most of the coffee Ive experimented with recently to see if I could tolerate coffee was instant.* I had no idea there was such a substance difference - I had thought it was about taste.* Im learning a lot :)* Thank you!

    So keeping in mind that my goal at the moment is to see if I can tolerate the coffee, how much does the machine make a difference would you say?* Clearly there would be a taste difference, but should I only be sampling coffee made from good machines or does it matter?
    Firstly,

    Absolutely, fresh coffee is important if you have stomach issues, after a while you will be able to smell how stale instant is.* Sorry but even Starbucks may not be as fresh as it should be, definitely most supermarket stuff is a bit to a lot past its "fresh"range, and especially avoid imported beans.
    And, yes freshly ground, recently roasted beans will taste better in the cup.

    Secondly, not sure if the machine, or brewing process, will make much difference to your issue, however if you are intending on purchasing from a cafe, have a good look at the process, do they use fresh milk for each order, or are they re-heating milk, and is the steam arm wiped clean after each use, and of course are they using fresh beans from a local roaster?
    Having said that, I should add that well made espresso is brewed relatively quickly compared to some other methods, and has good flavour, so potentially may be less likely to cause irritation than some other brewing methods.* It can then be drunk as short black, long black, macchiato, picolo latte, regular latte or cappacino, etc.
    Before you spend money on equipment, a reputable coffee shop will be able to make something for you to try, and there are many in Melbourne.

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    Re: Coffee for those with Stomach sensitivity

    Quote Originally Posted by 3425242F3221400 link=1302596434/10#10 date=1302683083
    I do have milk/dairy intolerance
    If you are lactose intolerant like me, look at the CS string at:
    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1282184470

    I add Lacteze drops to my milk, or take a*tablet before having food containing milk with no problems.

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    Re: Coffee for those with Stomach sensitivity

    Hi Al, I am sensitive to anything acidic and avoid acid coffee as it gives me reflux and stomach discomfort. I do not visit cafes that use Vittoria bean as I find it too acidic. If you do not have an acid sensitivity with any other food/drink then it seems unlikely that you are only allergic to coffee. Good coffee from an Espresso machine is quite different from other types and I rarely have problems with this unless my stomach is already a bit upset, in which case it will certainly stir it up. I find water intake is important when drinking several coffees. I use a dripolator at work with fresh, good quality bean and have no problems, but I do not drink lots of coffee at a sitting which would cause me stomach discomfort & reflux.

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    Re: Coffee for those with Stomach sensitivity

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3E2F2E25382B4A0 link=1302596434/12#12 date=1302683278
    Thanks - Ive updated my profile.* More specifically I live in the St Kilda / Elwood area.* Anyone have any suggestions of where to go for a good coffee?
    Check out the Good Coffee Where? threads http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?board=VIC



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