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    ADVICE! Teaching country folks the art of coffee.

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    Recently I went to Port Augusta, South Australia and noticed that NOBODY KNOWS HOW TO MAKE A DECENT COFFEE. Suddenly a lightbulb appeared on top of my head and I thought that maybe I should offer some basic training to country areas on how to make a good coffee because they dont have access to training like the metro areas and major cities. I was thinking nothing official like a tafe course, is there anything I should have to be able to teach a group?

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    Re: ADVICE! Teaching country folks the art of coffee.

    Used to be called "train the trainer", then "train small groups", now, "Certificate IV in Training and Assessment" would give you some credibility.

    Then of course, your knowledge of, "how to make a decent coffee" may be contested, particularly if you approach country folk with an offense like, "nobody knows..."


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    Re: ADVICE! Teaching country folks the art of coffee.

    Start in your local city and save fuel on travel expenses.City and metro are just as bad.Some country areas out perform some city areas.Just my 5 cents worth! ::)

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    Re: ADVICE! Teaching country folks the art of coffee.

    Live in the country first... ::)

    If you came to my town and told me that you were here to train our people to become baristas...Id probably show you out.

    I think your approach needs modifying as you wont be able to come over all city smart with country people...theyll be suspicious of you right away.

    Youd be far better off going and getting a job with a reputable coffee roaster who is already supplying country cafes and doing it that way. If the roaster has a smart business plan, theyll be sending out a friendly sales person who is more than happy to help keep the coffee standards up with giving helpful tips and teaching new staff.

    Country people are already proud and highly suspect of city people pushing their ways on to them. I think youll just come across heaps of resistance using this approach and not have any success at all. Youll just be seen as another travelling salesperson who they dont have time for when running a small business.

    Sure...good idea...just wrong application I think.

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    Re: ADVICE! Teaching country folks the art of coffee.

    I think if you advertise this idea in the country the majority of your applicants will be ex city folk anyway. A lot of born and bred country folk would not be interested in them "fancy latte things made from fancy fang dangled machines" this is in no way making fun of country folk. I am currently living in the country selling coffee and this is just my observation. A lot of country folk still prefer piping hot instant coffee. Then again a good percentage a coming around to discovering good espresso. It wouldnt hurt to try. What have you got to lose?

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    Re: ADVICE! Teaching country folks the art of coffee.

    While I have not been to Port Augusta recently I am under the impression that the town would not be expanding greatly at the moment.

    how many people have the money and are prepared to spend on "real coffee" if they see the coffee they have as good enough and a lot cheaper I dont know.

    Are there local shops selling fresh beans for instance?

    To be able to make money from any market the market has to be big enough.

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    Re: ADVICE! Teaching country folks the art of coffee.

    Quote Originally Posted by 292630302A2022272A3B2C2D430 link=1302856138/0#0 date=1302856138
    Recently I went to Port Augusta, South Australia and noticed that NOBODY KNOWS HOW TO MAKE A DECENT COFFEE. Suddenly a lightbulb appeared on top of my head and I thought that maybe I should offer some basic training to country areas on how to make a good coffee because they dont have access to training like the metro areas and major cities. I was thinking nothing official like a tafe course, is there anything I should have to be able to teach a group?
    Morning suga,
    Pt Augusta is known as the Cross Roads of Australia for good reason, all traffic heading north or west from the southern states must pass through it, the key word here is through, very people go to Pt Augusta, so you have a main strip, Highway One, running through the town with road houses and takeaway food joints lining the road, no good food or coffee to be had along this stretch, however if you leave the highway and drive into the main street you will find a couple of places that serve quite acceptable coffee, one cafe in particular up the North end of Commercial Road is well worth a try.
    As far as passing on barista skills to country folk, you will find there is training aplenty available to business owners offered by wholesale coffee suppliers, its simply a question of whether or not the owners choose to avail themselves of the training, I suspect most wont as travellers are pretty undemanding, bucket of chips, couple of dim sims and large take away black/white coffee would be a pretty standard order (no gourmet coffee here, the pick of coffee joints on the main road would be Maccas, and tell em how you want it i.e. large long black and only half fill the cup with water "its drinkable"
    Port Augusta is hardly the sticks, only about 3 hours by road from Adelaide and it is growing and will continue to do so with the BHP expansion at Olympic Dam on the verge of being given the nod.
    If you want to visit a country area with more than its share of better than average coffee houses try the Copper Triangle "two hours from Adelaide" Obviously the training message was well received up here. :)

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    Re: ADVICE! Teaching country folks the art of coffee.

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    We have lived for 31 years in our rural abode. We were Adelaidians before that. 31 years ago a good coffee was hard to come by anywhere.
    From our travels and observations around Aussie in these years there is both good and bad coffee in city and country. As Jon said in his post you can find good coffee in some country towns (e.g. Port Augusta) if you go off the beaten track. If we are in a town or city we usually try observe the coffee being served to other customers if we can before we decide to order.
    We had to travel to Melbourne to take the Prepare & Serve Espresso Coffee course with a great teacher in Chris... 2mcm . Chris is a pefectionsit when it comes to all things coffee and we thank him for instilling such into us. Joing C.S. and really knowing how to prepare and serve great coffees was the best thing we ever did. So much knowledge, skill and advice there.
    We have had fantastic coffees in the country. We are told on C.S. posts ...operator..knowledge, machine ..skill etc. There in lies the secret to success.
    We have observed the following over our years in some country and city cafes, clubs etc. Dirty caked steaming wands, topped up milk, scalded milk, inferior coffe beans lacking taste, beans that are ground early in the a.m. and stay ground all day, no sound of grinder when ordering the coffee, portafilters (cold) sitting on the machine grate until coffee is ordered. 30 ml in 30 seconds..what is that?
    Some of the shops and cafes in our rural area choose to use coffee beans suplied from far away suppliers in deals that go with their coffee machines. The beans supplied are not always the freshest or the best .
    More and more "cafes" are springing up in some country areas. However, anyone can be a Barista. We have had some doozies of coffees made for us by 15 to 60+ years olds. Some of thses operators have no idea of how to make a good coffee.
    Sadly a lot of country or city folks do not know what a difference there is in good or bad coffee either. They enjoy their burnt milk or watery coffees. Some of our friends do not want to know. Ignorance is bliss to them. Sad but true.
    We see no difference in country or city folks and their coffee preferences. Many of the folks who buy coffee locally near us are travelling through as they are on Highway 1. The larger towns and cities (e.g. Wagga Wagga) do run courses in the art of coffee making.
    Teaching the fine art of good coffee making is a great idea. However go city or country.



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