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    Not Noticing Differences in Coffee Blends

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    Are there others of you who dont seem able to pick up on the subtle differences in taste?

    So far I have tried grinding Harris Premium beans and using Coles Fair Trade medium roast and just now Grinders Crema.

    All are medium roast and all have have adequate crema, but to me they could have come out of the same packet.

    I dont think the machine could make them all taste so similar.

    Perhaps I should try them without the chocolate topping, which may overpower subtle diferences ...more than likely.

    I allowed the machine to heat up for about 5 minutes, and ran a burst of stream through the frother and hot water briefly through the brew head minus the group handle before extracting. Water was filtered

    Another question at this point ...When you first go to use the machine and add some water to the tank, then turn it on in Standby mode to heat up, is what ever heats up (thermoblock?) minus any water in it?

    As, at this point no pump has pumped water up from the tank.

    I suppose the quick purge without the group handle at least gets some water up into whatever heats the water.

    I empty the remaining tank water by releasing it through the coffee head minus the group handle, rather than removing the tank.

    All the coffee I have tried has been under $9 except for the Harris Beans - around $11.49.

    Back to my first question, do some of you find it hard to distinguish between one pack of coffee and the next?* :-/

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    Re: Not Noticing Differences in Coffee Blends

    LIke I said in your other thread, you will need to get a single walled basket and some fresh beans before you will be able to improve on the coffee you are making.
    The beans you are using are stale and the different flavours have already been lost.

    You will also need to heat your machine up for longer to improve your results, make sure you heat it up with your handle locked in place.

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    Re: Not Noticing Differences in Coffee Blends

    Also yes, if youre trying to actually taste the differences between blends, do so without chocolate sprinkles, sugar or even milk (if you can). Store bought coffee as stated is already stale, so you lose a lot of flavour qualities based purely on that fact. Then after that, most use lower quality beans and dont roast to the same calibre that speciality coffee roasters do. Try picking up some beans from coffeesnobs here, you should be able to notice at least some difference.

    The palate can be an incredibly difficult thing to train but youre on the right track. With coffee its really hard to taste just one bean and try and pick out flavour notes. You need to compare it to many different coffees and pick out where they differ.

    Also - get rid of that pressurised basket :P

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    Re: Not Noticing Differences in Coffee Blends

    Thanks to all of you who replied to my original message about the Sunbeam EM2800 (Piccollo) and this one about taste.

    Trentskis reply surprised me, in that I didnt think I had replies to my first post. The notifier doesnt seem to be working.

    I feel I wont be able to dispense with the pressurised basket, as probably no other Sunbeam one would fit it.

    But the advice given will be a major factor for a replacement machine, when this one gives out.

    And I am not very far Belaromas factory/cafe ... which is just a tad away from Harvey Normans in Balgowlah (Sydney). So, I will try some of their freshly roasted ones .. . but not those very oily ones someone thought were poisoned.

    After I posted, I did begin to think the taste subtleties may be more evident in espresso rather cappuccinos.

    So thanks guys, your speedy replies are a surprise and appreciated. And nice to have a local forum rather than the American ones.* :)

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    Re: Not Noticing Differences in Coffee Blends

    Well the good thing is you didnt spend much on your Sunbeam.

    You could try other brewing methods with the coffee you have. Maybe try cold press or filter and see if you notice the difference that way.

    Something like 80 grams of ground coffee to 500mls of cold water and put in fridge for 24 hours. Take it out and without shaking it up pour off the liquid from the top to leave the coffee grounds in the bottom.
    Mix it at a ratio of one part coffee, 4 parts milk to make an iced coffee, or play around with ratios of hot water to make long blacks.

    You should be able to see the different tastes in black coffee.

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    Re: Not Noticing Differences in Coffee Blends

    Quote Originally Posted by 6F535A525D5A553B0 link=1325466080/3#3 date=1325469299
    I didnt think I had replies to my first post. The notifier doesnt seem to be working
    The "notifier" works fine, it might be in your junk mail.

    Quote Originally Posted by 6F535A525D5A553B0 link=1325466080/3#3 date=1325469299
    I feel I wont be able to dispense with the pressurised basket, as probably no other Sunbeam one would fit it.
    You can modify the one you have by drilling holes from the underside. Plenty of people here have done that over the years with good results.


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    Re: Not Noticing Differences in Coffee Blends

    going off topic slightly, how long can you keep the water the coffee has been sitting in for?

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    Re: Not Noticing Differences in Coffee Blends

    Quote Originally Posted by 3C33293233343D3633203B283E6B636D685A0 link=1325466080/6#6 date=1325472995
    going off topic slightly, how long can you keep the water the coffee has been sitting in for?

    3-4 weeks, do a search for "cold press" coffee and there are heaps of threads. Javaphile makes it in huge quantities :o

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    Re: Not Noticing Differences in Coffee Blends

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    Yeah refrigerated coffee has a pretty good shelf life, so that is something to really think about as summer comes around (holy crap 38 degrees today, i forgot how bad summer is!).

    If you do want to really taste coffee you get better results from other brewing methods in my opinion. aeropress is cheap and easy to wrap your head around. pour over is even cheaper but requires a bit more input from you. those two really are my favourite coffee brewing methods for home.



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