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    Newbie to espresso.... need your help... :D See youtube video... ;)

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Newbie to coffee and espresso...

    Need som tips for my cups.... :)

    Used some very cheap beans for testing, so maybe the espresso looks a little to white in the top...???

    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-WKkH6aYT0&context=C3ca0d5aADOEgsToPDskKscYlRoMxSFO j4keNCtcMA[/media]

    Plz give me some input..... ;)

    (Using a krups novo 2100 plus 15 bar machine, krups grinder)






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    Re: Newbie to espresso.... need your help... :D See youtube video... ;)

    Im gonna say, theres only one thing wrong with that pour, and that is "your basket is pressurised"

    Having said that, Id really look at upgrading your grinder, I dont believe that configeration grinder can grind near fine enough for espresso (proper espresso anyway)

    Not sure how you could modify your Krupps machine to unpressurise the basket/portafilter, but thats whats causing the white froth on top of the shot

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    Re: Newbie to espresso.... need your help... :D See youtube video... ;)

    Hey.... ! :)

    Took a quick look a my basket, looks like a semi thing..??

    Think it need to have a good clean, never really gave the basket any thougt... :O

    The grinder was not set to it finest setting, gonna try that when i get home later today....


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    Re: Newbie to espresso.... need your help... :D See youtube video... ;)

    some machines have a pressurised pf and not the basket. Either way it just creates artificial froth by agitating the espresso which is why your crema disappears. A good crema should remain at 50% + of the volume of the whole shot after youve finished extracting. Grinding finer should help, but its also about consistency and heat of grind, which a cheap grinder cant do.

    But still, the important question is for you: are you happy with drinking it?

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    Re: Newbie to espresso.... need your help... :D See youtube video... ;)

    If i grinde the beans too fine the machine will not work, think its too weak/old... :O

    It just goes bruuum bruum bruuum and leaves me with a few drops.... :/

    I newer drink the espresso, i use the it for Latte, Cappuccino and Macchiato... :)




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    Re: Newbie to espresso.... need your help... :D See youtube video... ;)

    Guys you sound like the people to ask I have a sunbeam em 6910 for 3 years made great coffe. Then all of a sudden I cant get the grind right, no matter how fine I grind just poor head pressure and a weak water shot. It barely makes the gauge move?
    I have also out of laziness bought supermarket beans for the first time ever(vittoria Roast). could this be the problem?

    Please help

    Farmboy

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    Re: Newbie to espresso.... need your help... :D See youtube video... ;)

    Hi Farmboy,

    The quick answer is probably yes. Supermarket beans are all too often stale, and as a result they behave much differently from fresh beans. You will notice a much faster pour rate with the same grind size.
    I would definitely recommend getting back to the freshly roasted beans and I think an improvement will be immediate,

    All the best,
    Jayson

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    Re: Newbie to espresso.... need your help... :D See youtube video... ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by 4A707578190 link=1331122532/4#4 date=1331281136
    If i grinde the beans too fine the machine will not work, think its too weak/old... :O
    This is the point Im making about consistency - its a finer grind setting but I bet there a range of sizes - not visible to the naked eye, but it makes you do this:
    I newer drink the espresso, i use the it for Latte, Cappuccino and Macchiato... :)
    Having said that its partly the machine as well, but a better grinder would help with the taste!

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    Re: Newbie to espresso.... need your help... :D See youtube video... ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by 073D3835540 link=1331122532/0#0 date=1331122532
    Used some very cheap beans for testing, so maybe the espresso looks a little to white in the top...???

    This is where I would start, fresh roasted beans.
    Its the cheapest upgrade and if buying from a roaster they should be able to give you some tips on extraction.

    If its a pressurized basket, replace it with unpressurized basket. Not sure of the size of the Kurps baskets but should be easy and cheap also.

    Quote Originally Posted by 073D3835540 link=1331122532/2#2 date=1331193235
    Took a quick look a my basket, looks like a semi thing..??
    This photo to me looks like the diffuser in the head of the machine. The basket sits in the group handle (portafilter) and should just pop out.

    Then work on consistent tamp pressure while trying different settings on your grinder until you get something you like. Remember that when you change grinder settings to clean out any beans left in the throat of the grinder as these will be ground at the last grinder setting. I usually just add some more beans and grind them through and bin them.

    Quote Originally Posted by 073D3835540 link=1331122532/4#4 date=1331281136
    If i grinde the beans too fine the machine will not work, think its too weak/old... Shocked
    No to old, just grinding to fine and choked the machine. Imagine a small rock in a hose, the water flows around it. then imagine lots of fine sand packed in the same hose, it slows the flow of the water. Same idea with ground coffee.

    Hope this helps.
    The other replys above will also help but this is where I would start with your current machines. Upgrading will always help but that can get expensive fast ;D

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    Re: Newbie to espresso.... need your help... :D See youtube video... ;)

    Behmor Brazen - $249 - Free Freight
    Thanks for the replay... :D

    Got some better beans i use, but for testing i use some cheap beans... ;)

    Gotta find some better baskets, but will not upgrade my machine or grinder, like the coffee it makes, and is not in need to use to much money for a "little" better coffee...



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