which one did you try?
My friend took the risk of ordering coffee beans of Indonesian origin from Barneys New York, and had them shipped to OZ, kinda travelled the world already huh.
ANyway, the beans turned out to be surprisingly fresh, as fresh as, if not fresher than the 1kg beans youd get from Woolies off the shelf.
Crema was thick and tasted creamy, as the beans were packed in a vacuum bag (this method is rare and almost unseen in Australia), no air present in the packaging, hence no oxidation. I dont know how they did it.
Now, while they offer free shipping until 23rd June 2012, 1lb (~450g) of beans cost about $16-18.
In order not to breach the site rules, I have deleted the prices and link to protect everyones interest.
I hope my first coffeesnobs contribution helps!
which one did you try?
International shipping is fine (but risky if you dont know the product !) ..it only takes a few days,* ...but I am trying to understand how /why you vacuum pack fresh roasted beans that naturally produce gas for some time after roasting ???
A better method would be Nitrogen purged packing.
.. its impossible to vac extract all the air from a pack of beans..50% of the volume is in the spaces between the beans.no air present in the packaging, hence no oxidation.
Originally Posted by 4F21616D620C0 link=1339687495/1#1 date=1339714377
I tried the espresso blend.
You might want to read the site rules re posting commercial links to non-sponsors.....just saying.
Please find attached the pictures.
Regarding the vacuum pack and freshness, the coffee beans mustve been roasted and aired for 3-4 days prior to being vacuum packed, because freshly roasted coffee releases gas (mostly CO2) most quickly in the first few days.
If you look closely, there is a one-way valve on the packaging, therefore, it means the beans havent been releasing much gases yet, judging by its brick-like compactness.
In my honest opinion, this is a better way of packaging, as it is just as good, compact, easier for mass transportation.
This is getting interesting, as I went on and on digging out information about the debate on packing with vacuum or nitro.
A good article to ponder below:
More pictures, and a shot of the blend.
Where is the roast date?
Roasted in Seattle, shipped to New York before shipping to you. I doubt these are very fresh.
Lower pressure air freight has sucked all the air out of the valve, I dont think they would have vac-packed them.Originally Posted by 606660606E665861666966736E64070 link=1339687495/5#5 date=1339729974
With free freight the price is ok, not really much cheaper per kilo than local product which will be better and fresher with a known roast date and less air miles.
Support your local roaster instead!
Not sure if its due to your method, your machine or the beans, but that picture of the extraction is not a good advertisement. A rather pale and weak looking crema.
Hear! Hear!Originally Posted by 0728223F460 link=1339687495/7#7 date=1339735248
You get what you pay for, and no doubt the beans will not be as fresh as those locally sourced.
I know how the local industry feels when the overseas internet retail is hurting the local economy. And yet no one stood up and price match them to protect our local/family establishments.
Being a barista myself, I dont understand why the packaging method above is not practised in Australia. Its just so much easier to hold 10 bricks of beans instead of 10 bags of them on your own, esp when youre working at a busy cafe.
Where is the roast date?
Support your local roaster instead!
...that picture of the extraction is not a good advertisement
Couldnt agree more with these comments!
Now, fresh coffee time!
Originally Posted by 6F5A4940494563280 link=1339687495/8#8 date=1339737169
Yes, spot on!! I was actually waiting for someone to comment on this.
In actuality, the grind size was off by heaps! My Quaha Napoletanas grinder jammed at grind size number 4, and it couldnt go lower. I believe it happened after I replaced my gasket and cleaned my grouphead, the machine was tilted upside down where beans probably jammed it. This has been like this for days and that needs to be fixed when I get home this evening.
Anyone knows how to properly disassemble a Quaha Napoletana or a Lelit equivalent?
Actually buying roasted beans locally is more about common sense than a policy statement about buying overseas.Originally Posted by 0600060608003E07000F00150802610 link=1339687495/9#9 date=1339738640
Yup! Aint dat da truth! ::)Originally Posted by 1326353C35391F540 link=1339687495/12#12 date=1339743536
I wonder if they could send me a ham sandwich. ::)
Ill pass thanks - unless Barney wants to send Betty over to home deliver the coffee in person (and stay for a while ;D).
That said, given the site owner is a roaster and in the interests of being respectful and thankful...but perhaps thats just me. ::)
We have exceptional coffee and way too many great roasters here. Show a little respect mate. >:(
So why would you post this here unless you were trolling?Originally Posted by 535553535D556B52555A55405D57340 link=1339687495/9#9 date=1339738640
The market is flooded with cheap coffee options. Some are drinkable, some are nasty and rarely are any of them good but they dont cost much.
You can buy coffee for $14/kg but dont expect to be excited by the results in the cup.
Price match? How about a quality and price match?Originally Posted by 535553535D556B52555A55405D57340 link=1339687495/9#9 date=1339738640
US$18 a pound is AU$40/kg plus a dollar or two more in conversion fees.
Ill happily send you old coffee for $42/kg with free freight but dont expect our name on the packet.
...or for $46 Ill send 1kg of fresh roasted to order coffee and it will arrive 1 day after roasting.
In fact being in Melbourne you can use a courier for $2 less so could have 1kg of coffee delivered overnight to your door for $44.25
What you bought wasnt cheap, wasnt fresh and wasnt good.
...you really should clean your machine more often and heat the Bodums before using them.Originally Posted by 535553535D556B52555A55405D57340 link=1339687495/9#9 date=1339738640
You can get them if you want. The side gusset bags are cheaper than stand-up valve bags with the ziplock and as I said above... the "brick" is because they were in a low pressure cargo hold on the flight over.Originally Posted by 535553535D556B52555A55405D57340 link=1339687495/9#9 date=1339738640
I hope Barney sends you a pound for the free ad too.
Andy, the problems Ive found with some local coffee companies is:
1 - They wont ship to the public.
2 - When you have to buy through retail the stock is often past ideal dates.
3 - Prices can be ridiculous ($55+ per kg!).
I am guilty of never having ordered from BeanBay, however when I look at what is on offer the prices are very good and lets be honest, I dont think you would be selling sub par crap.
There is a roaster in Melbourne whos coffee I really liked at the MICE, after three Emails and 6 phone calls trying to find some (because they dont sell direct) Ive given up. Perhaps as part of your Bean Bay you might consider offering some of the sponsors coffees too?
Hi RossOriginally Posted by 5E61654E7D6D6F67080 link=1339687495/17#17 date=1340246123
Im in Perth and there isnt allot of choice but enough with some roasters offering generous postage prices and collection from others, with good quality beans ranging from $29-$45 per kg avilable and some allot more. I know of a couple Melbourne roasters which sell to the public and also post at a fair price. I think its just a matter of searching.
Dont hesitate to give bean bay a try either. Im trying Andys Peru Ceja de Selva Estate at the moment and Im very impressed being my first purchase from him
Some roasters may only sell direct to clients, and allow their clients to retail the product.Originally Posted by 4A75715A69797B731C0 link=1339687495/17#17 date=1340246123
A Roaster selling another Roasters product is fraught with problems and in my opinion a complete waste of time. Most of the sponsors here will sell you roasted coffee via their website.
Use google and you can find a multitude of roasters offering coffee online. And yes there are other forums and coffee roasters (who are not sponsors) who offer good quality roasted coffee for sale to the public. Part of the coffee journey is to try as many as possible of the amazing coffees out there.
I buy freshly roasted coffee from a few sources overseas (as well as locally), and it arrives in perfect condition and ready to use, usually 7-9 days post roast. I find this perfect, as coffee younger than this needs to settle (for my palate). I buy from overseas, not because of price, but to try blends and coffee not available here. I buy chocolates from Belgium for the same reason.
With all due respect, to ask someone to price match a product, the product (or specifications) must be identical. With coffee that is difficult as there are too many variables. I hope you enjoyed your coffee, but personally, given the effort, there are many other companies that I would* have brought from. Though this may be a plug for B**** of NY, I think it clearly demonstrated who to avoid. Had the product been one that was exemplary (say a blend that was used in the* WBC), I think it would have been discussed differently.Originally Posted by 7B7D7B7B757D437A7D727D68757F1C0 link=1339687495/9#9 date=1339738640
As to your question re the machine repair, once again use google, or take the machine to your nearest repair centre, as some DIY repair can cost you dearly.
When my current batch of coffee runs out (maybe by next weekend) Im going to give the BeanBay Espresso Wow! and Organic a go. Its not often I get excited like a 7 year kid at Christmas these days, but getting a new espresso blend to try does rekindle some of that fire :D
Wow, I am terribly sorry to have amassed so many replies and criticisms.I am terribly sorry and I will not post further info as such on coffeesnobs in the future. And no, Barney did not send him free beans!Originally Posted by 614E4459200 link=1339687495/16#16 date=1339751896
Ditto VimFuego, I hope BeanBay can reach out to more people by doing that. I sure will check out BeanBays beans soon!